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Starches aside, the real point of the mater is that 1 lb total of steeping grains is not going to give you 15 more points brix in an extract beer. Your reading is off. Possibly due to stratification or, as was mentioned, your hydrometer is off. Or you didn't add enough malt extract. But it has nothing to do with the steeping grains.

how is his reading off?  It was 1.030.  I would say his expectation of 1.045 is off, not his reading...

without the oats and dextrine it should have been around 1.036-1.040. so the reading is off, regardless of the confusion in the recipe. and the dextrine should have given up it's sugars at any rate. so really we would be talking about taking out the oats which should only lower the og by ~.004.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: On This Day in 1989...
« on: March 19, 2012, 01:18:51 AM »
for beer, I think it was winter of 2006/2007. It was the alton brown pale ale recipe. living in Dorchester, MA. got the goods at a LHBS in cambridge.

but I tried to make mead about 4 times in 2000ish.

see my reply on your other thread about this. If you were .015 points low then you are for sure getting a bad read. test your hydro with distilled water. or stir the wort better and take another reading. if it's still off then test your hydro with distilled water.

how low were you? .5 lbs oats is not going to give you very much. .004 points more or less. I really wouldn't worry about it. while flaked oats should be mashed to give sugar I THINK that they will still lend a smoothness and head retention as a steeping grain. If you were more than .004 points off your expected OG I would assume it is a bad reading as extract recipes are nearly always right on.

All Things Food / Re: What's For Dinner?
« on: March 18, 2012, 10:48:44 PM »
Last night, tacos with homemade tortillas, black beans, sauted mushrooms and leeks (and guac of course)

and tonight, salad with radichio, spinach, pears, olives and chevre

and beer to drink, Rye IPA single hop with ivanhoe

The Pub / Re: Guinness Ad
« on: March 16, 2012, 11:38:39 PM »
Sorry everyone, didn't mean to take the thread down such a serious road. Mr. Sr. you are a well informed man and I would hate to actually have to argue with you about something.  :D

everyone who wished to, have a safe and happy st. paddies,

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Diacetyl maybe ?
« on: March 16, 2012, 03:09:10 PM »
If it is at a level not discernible by taste, why worry about it?  And I don't judge beer, but I think anything liquid has some slickness to it.  Compared to a corn muffin, for example.

you aren't using enough butter!

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: AIPA...Aroma...BJCP
« on: March 16, 2012, 03:07:46 PM »
I noticed something interesting with my last IPA. I keg hopped with 1 oz (it's a single hop rye ipa with ivanhoe) and quick carbed by shaking and the aroma on that first day was outstanding. It has since faded a bit. still good but not in your face to the same extent. So I am thinking that having the hops in there while I shook the beejeezus out of the beer essentially randalized it for a couple hours.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Headspace question
« on: March 16, 2012, 03:02:27 PM »
I just brewed a 5 gallon batch of Dunkelweizen last night. OG=1.053, pitched 1 smackpack of Wyeast 3638 (Bavarian Wheat) that I had smacked and brought to room temp about 5 hours prior to pitching. (I am trying to pitch on the low side a bit to maximize the ester profile in the finished beer). Wort was 66F when I pitched and put it in my basement overnight to hold the ambient temp in the mid 60's.

Here's my dilemma. I am fermenting this 5 gallon batch in my 6 gallon carboy. I didn't catch this blurb on the yeast description at the Wyeast site ( ) until this morning:

This is true top cropping yeast and requires fermenter headspace of 33%.

I used Fermcap, but will that be enough to let me get away with half as much headspace as I need? Or should I rack this to my 6.5gal fermenter ASAP to prevent a massive blowoff? Thanks in advance.

I am not sure how much help the extra .5 gallon is going to be. I would set up a blowoff rig if you can. If you do decide to transfer I don't actually think, at this point, before fermentation has taken off, that there would be any problem with just pouring it into the new carboy.

The Pub / Re: Guinness Ad
« on: March 16, 2012, 02:58:48 PM »
Haha!  I don't like St. Patrick's day, but that was funny!


I suppose there are many things not to like about it, but a St. Paddy's Day celebration does not require drunken stooges vomiting in the street.

If I still have energy after the parade tomorrow, we will take the family to the Heritage Center for traditional music and Irish step dancing.  And draft Guinness at $5 a pop.

I avoid the bar scene as that's just full of tools.  Not that I go to bars much anymore anyway...
I'm upset about it because it's the weekend my girlfriend and I decided to go to Madison, WI to visit some friends.  My main plan for the trip was to go out, drink good beer and eat good food.  Then I realized it was St. Pat's weekend and I thought, "Damn it all! Every bar will be swarming with "Kiss me I'm Irish" tshirt wearing idiots who probably aren't even Irish in the least!"  Oh well, I'll make do and it'll still be a fun weekend.  No Irish in me hence the not celebrating St. Patrick's Day thing I got going on.  Don't really celebrate holidays that don't apply to me or my heritage.

It's particularly ridiculous for the Irish to celebrate st patricks day given that patrick wasn't irish, He was Roman, and he got cannonized for killing irish kings. I am irish, at least a little, but I am not catholic and I do not like drunken idiots.

All Things Food / Re: Homemade Soap!
« on: March 16, 2012, 11:06:36 AM »
This is interesting…

I just pulled the soap (see above - basic recipe with cascade hops (not dishwasher detergent)) and the instant it hits the air, it starts turning brown. I mean, you can watch the color change. I did some google work and it seems to be a known issue with soap with vanilla added. The only thing I can imagine is that whatever is in vanilla that causes the browning is also in hops. Fascinating.

I wonder if it is the alcohol?

no alcohol in the above recipe. that's a curios thing. Says oxidation to me so somethings o2 loving in both vanilla and hops. doesn't have to be the same something.though.

Equipment and Software / Re: Is this a poor shape for a mash tun?
« on: March 16, 2012, 11:03:31 AM »
my last mash was a mash in a bag.  i used a 5 gallon igloo. i had not had a chance to put my braid in it yet.  i just through everything in a grain bag (i have used it for boil in bag before) and i only do 2 gallon batches so this was plenty big.  then after the mash i just drained it through the regular spigot,  the grain bag kept everything inside and it was easy to lift out and clean.

this is how I started all grain, except with a bottling bucket and lots of blankets, comforters. works great!

Going Pro / Re: OK, we're doing it
« on: March 16, 2012, 10:10:54 AM »
That's awesome micsager.  Congrats on starting the process!  ;D

It's a pipe dream for me to do the same, but a looooooong ways off from making that kind of gutsy move.  Have you looked into the Federal requirements yet?  I've heard that they can be a pain in the keester.

To echo Nateo, From everything I have read the feds are really not that hard to work with. State and Local is a lot more work as they are the ones actually inspecting your facility etc. I have read that the label approval process with the feds can be a little frustrating.

Equipment and Software / Re: Is this a poor shape for a mash tun?
« on: March 16, 2012, 10:02:33 AM »
I'm in the other camp. I don't like it. Buy a Coleman Extreme and there's no problems. And no wheels either.

Well, the only reason I was considering it is because I wouldn't have to buy it, but I would have to build the manifold.

If I were to buy something I would probably get a 10 gallon cylindrical so I can re-use the false bottom I have. ( )

I'm just pissed at myself for not researching this better.

It'll work fine and a little hump won't hurt you.

That's what she said?  :o
Don't go nuts with the 'manifold' mine has a length of vinyl tube stuck through the drain hole with a ss braid (ala denny) attached to the inside end with a hose clamp. works like a champ.

Well, this is for a 10 gal batch. I should have time to do another 5L, making it 10 L total/ 5L for each 5 gallon. That seems like it would be plenty?

I would think so.

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