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The Pub / Re: Distilling
« on: October 21, 2010, 07:02:42 AM »
One of the top stories on the AHA website is Homebrewing is Legal in Kentucky Now!  Right on!

Just a thought... Were homebrewers in Kentucky discouraged from participating in this forum before homebrewing was legalized there?  

One of the greatest strengths of our country is that we have the right, and the means to change laws that we believe are unjust or do not make sense.  One of the great strengths of the Brewers Association is being an advocate and a lobby for changing laws we believe are unjust or do not make sense.

How can we work towards making changes if the subject of the change is discouraged from being discussed?


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The Pub / Re: Distilling
« on: October 20, 2010, 11:14:09 PM »
Nicely said weazletoe.

BTW it's still Wednesday here, but I am in agreement with your signature and avatar.  Lucky ting I live Hawaii!

Regarding your name... is that kinda like camel toe?  :o

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The Pub / Re: Distilling
« on: October 20, 2010, 10:21:18 PM »
True. The aging requirements alone (for whiskey, anyway) are a pretty significant barrier to entry.

I was just saying that I don't think you can justify homebrewing from a cost-benefit perspective.

Legally, in the U.S. to be sold as whiskey, it must be aged in oak barrels for at least three years.
Are you looking to sell legal whiskey?
Cost-benefit perspective?  On a hobby?  Really?
Research, or better yet try some (legally available) White Dog whiskey. 
Young, non-oaked, unhopped, distilled, beer.
YUM!

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The Pub / Re: Distilling
« on: October 20, 2010, 10:00:05 PM »
Distilling, to me, isn't worth the effort.  The cost-benefit analysis of distilling vs. going out and buying your own bottle of whiskey is a clear choice.  It's cheaper, easier, and less work to buy your own, not make your own.

Isn't that true of brewing as well?

From what I gathered by talking to a guy once who distilled his own spirits, it's A LOT of work. Homebrewing gains you way more than buying beer.  Distilling your own gains you way less than buying your own.  You might get higher quality, but it's gonna cost ya.

"Talking to a guy once," should not be the sole source of decision making information.
Is brewing a LOT of work?  What if distilling was less work and at least as enjoyable?
On what do you base your conclusion that "distilling your own gains you way less than buying your own"?
What if you could make a beverage that didn't give you hangovers? (read congener free)
Is high-end quality 100 proof vodka at $2.50 a litre what you mean by, "It's gonna cost ya"?

Perhaps a bit of reading might change your mind... (see the links in my previous post)

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The Pub / Re: Distilling
« on: October 20, 2010, 09:00:08 PM »
Oh yeah... did I mention, the first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club? ;)

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The Pub / Re: Distilling
« on: October 20, 2010, 07:38:42 PM »
Until Jimmy Carter legalized homebrewing in 1979 making your own beer was against the law too.  It seems funny to me that some homebrewers find discussing distilling objectionable.  To me it's the next step in the process.  A big part of distilling is the fermentation process that comes first.

Yes distilling alcohol is illegal in the U.S.  The big taboo is that the US Treasurery Department feels that ALL distilled spirits must be taxed; in other words, lost tax revenue.  Are they overly concerned about lost revenue from homemade beer, mead or wine?  Talking about distilling is not illegal.  

There is a great deal of misinformation about distilling and distilled spirits out there; even more so than misinformation about homebrewed beer. Think about the misinformation you encounter about homebrewing, then take the stories you hear about distilling with a grain of salt.  Very high quality distilled spirits can be made on a small scale.  With a bit of caution, the chance of hurting oneself or others can be reduced to zero; much the same as using glass carboys for fermenting safely.

Craft distilling is taking off now like craft brewing did 20-30 years ago.  That's very exciting!  Home distilling is legal in some countries, including New Zealand.  I think it can be legalized in the U.S. too if people make the effort to educate the public and dispel the ubiquitous myths surrounding home distilling.

Perhaps Denny is right.  This may not be the right forum for discussing distillation.  
Tony Ackland of New Zealand has put together an excellent home distillers’ forum at:
http://www.homedistiller.org/

Another excellent forum is the Artisan Distiller at:
http://www.artisan-distiller.org/

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: A day in the life of a nano brewer
« on: October 20, 2010, 02:52:49 AM »
So who's the press coffee drinker and who's the paper filter guy? (cool video btw)

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Classifieds / Re: Seeking Master Brewer
« on: October 20, 2010, 02:36:03 AM »
Trendy in Ohio.... hmm....  good luck with that.

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