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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2011, 10:38:17 AM »
Wow 1 hour and 40 minute boil?  Is this due to the fact that they are brewing something like 100 barrels at a time?

A 90+ minute boil is standard for most breweries. Part of the reason is probably economic (better hop utilization), but a lot of it is because big kettles tend to have lower SA/V, so a longer boil helps to drive off DMS. Home brewers are used to seeing 10-20% boiloff, but in a bigger brewhouse it's typically <5%.
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 01:49:19 PM »
It's exactly the same as in years past...that was verified when I was at Beer Camp.  They had just released it and I drank a lot of it on tap.  Verified with several people there that it's the same recipe.  They said that SN will give you any recipe you ask for.  Here's the Cele recipe direct from the brewmaster via a friend who works in the R&D lab....note that the hops times are backwards from what we normally think of.  I.e., "0" is the first addition and "100" means after boiling for 100 min.

Malts:
Pale 2-row: 89%
Caramel (60L): 11%
Mash at 157.5 F
Original Gravity: 16.0 Plato
Ending Gravity: 4.0 Plato
ABV: 6.8%
Hops
0 min: Chinook & Centennial
90 min: Cascade
100 min: 2/3 Cascade & 1/3 Centennial

100 min: Whirlpool
IBU: 65
Dry Hopped with 2/3 Cascade & 1/3 Centennial
Yeast: SNBCo Ale

Wow 1 hour and 40 minute boil?  Is this due to the fact that they are brewing something like 100 barrels at a time?  I would think on a homebrew level we should not need to boil that long.  I'm not doubting this is the recipe by any means (especially since it's a pretty direct source), but I thought that Dressler gave the recipe out during a Brewing Network episode in which he stated Chinook in the beginning, then Cascade and Centennial at a 2:1 ration for a late edition, knockout, then dry hop.  Grain ratio was the same as posted here.  Maybe this episode was a while ago and they since changed.

Denny said "note that the hops times are backwards from what we normally think of.  I.e., "0" is the first addition and "100" means after boiling for 100 min."  So it sounds like the recipe Steve gave on the BN is the same.

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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 06:37:20 AM »
I think an hour boil would be sufficient.

I don't know what to say about the recipe variations....my friend went to Dressler and this is the recipe he got.

I put everything into BeerSmith with a 60min boil time for a partial boil/partial mash recipe. From what I remember the gravity was right at what it should be and the IBU was damn near perfect too.  I can post it tonight, I don't remember the specifics right now except it was equal parts chinook and cascade at 60min, cascade at 30 and then 2/3 cascade and 1/3 centennial at 0min.  I may try this out as my first brew of 2012. 
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 06:38:05 AM »
I make this beer every year and an hour boil is long enough.

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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 09:01:53 PM »
Here is what I came up with for a 60 min boil/partial mash (Based on 3 gal boil, and default AA from BeerSmith)

Estimated OG: 1.066
IBU: 65.2
Color: 11.6 SRM
ABV: 6.6%

2.5 lb American 2-Row
1.0 lb Crystal 60
Mash 157.5 for 60min

3 lb Light Dry Extract
2.5 lb Light Dry Extract (Late addition - 30 min)
1 oz Centennial (10% AA) 60 min
1 oz Chinook (13% AA) 60 min
1 oz Cascade (5% AA) 30 min
2 oz Cascade (5% AA) 0 min
1 oz Centennial (10% AA) 0 min

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Dry Hop 7 Days w/2 oz Cascade and 1 oz Centennial
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 03:08:23 PM »
Word.  Picked up a 12'er before Halloween!   8)

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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 03:26:16 PM »
Damn good stuff.  I look forward to it every year.
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2013, 07:02:38 AM »
Hot dog!  That is great news!  Thanks for the heads-up!  Woo hoo!!  Yeah, baby!  The holidays are upon us.
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2013, 04:26:20 PM »
I'm going to pick up a case or two of celebration this season! And I know just where to get them. ..
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2013, 04:31:41 PM »
I went looking for celebration today. I found 2012 Celebration at two stores! No 2013. I am in Mississippi so we get beer late, but, 2012?! I am wondering if that has been sitting on the shelf for a year or if the buyer at the beer store got snookered.

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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2013, 04:48:57 PM »
Yep, the guy at the store either got taken, or he was hoping to take you !  It's really good, but a year past and I would pass.
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2013, 04:53:40 PM »
Yep, the guy at the store either got taken, or he was hoping to take you !  It's really good, but a year past and I would pass.

Wow...I totally disagree.
I hope you bought some of that 2012.   Celebration is my favorite commercial IPA, bar none.  I always pick some up when it first comes out and I love it...but I also love it when it's from the previous year and usually pick some of that up as well whenever I see it. 
Celebration is really top notch even when it's a year old.
No question it changes with age, but most definitely not in a bad way.
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2013, 05:19:10 PM »
Yep, the guy at the store either got taken, or he was hoping to take you !  It's really good, but a year past and I would pass.

Wow...I totally disagree.
I hope you bought some of that 2012.   Celebration is my favorite commercial IPA, bar none.  I always pick some up when it first comes out and I love it...but I also love it when it's from the previous year and usually pick some of that up as well whenever I see it. 
Celebration is really top notch even when it's a year old.
No question it changes with age, but most definitely not in a bad way.

I wasn't saying it would be undrinkable, just that I wouldn't spend the $$ on year old Celebration, especially when I can get this year's.  I've at one time had almost a decade of SN Bigfoot cellared for vertical tasting ( and many other beers, for that matter).  But I guess that's where we part thinking - drinking IPA fresh vs aged.   I found a bottle of last year's Celebration in the back of the fridge 4 or 5 months after I bought it, still plenty drinkable, but nowhere near as good as fresh IMO. IPA is about
     HOPS,       and they fade quickly in a standard IPA - undeniably !!  But I respect your right to drink it as you like it.   :)
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 09:00:51 PM by HoosierBrew »
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2013, 05:21:24 PM »
Celebration 2013 has been in the stores here for almost a month now.  Working on my third case (many shared with Thanksgiving guests).

Gonna have to take your word on the year-old Celebration Professor.  Mine seldom makes it past Super Bowl Sunday.   ;D

Dollars-wise it's going for $7.50/sixpack here.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 05:23:42 PM by punatic »
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Re: Celebration is out again
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2013, 05:22:29 PM »
That too, man.  Can't imagine it lasting that long !
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