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help me choose hops
« on: December 22, 2011, 01:14:21 AM »
I need to order some hops for my English ales and Irish stout, and I'm trying to decide between:

Sonnet™ Golding c.v. Leaf 2011 NEW CROP Size: 1 Lb.  6.6%       $ 18.60

East Kent Golding Leaf Hops NEW 2011 CROP Size: 1 Lb. 4.6%     $ 14.65

First Gold UK Leaf Hops NEW 2011 CROP SIZE: 1 LB 5.1%            $ 12.15

Fuggle UK Leaf Hops NEW 2011 CROP Size: 1 Lb. 4.3%                 $ 14.35

Clearly the First Gold gives the most bang for the buck for bittering, which is all I use it for in my stout, so I might get a pound of that.  I liked the Sonnet golding, but I'm not liking the price this year.  I think I'd pick the EKG over the Fuggles, but I'm open to being convinced.  I'll probably get a pound each of two varieties, so what do you guys think?
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 02:16:31 AM »
EKG and Fuggles.
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 02:53:45 AM »
Come on euge, you got to give me some reasons.  Those are the easy choices, but I haven't used First Gold.
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 05:50:16 AM »
EKG, because I said so.

Hmm, then between 1st Gold and Fuggles.  I just don't know the other one and its expensive.

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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 06:19:35 AM »
going on about the difference between 14 and 18 bucks?

Personally I would not even worry about the cost difference.
It is a whole pound of hops.  How many gallons can you make with that?

...for the price of a burger.

Sonnet.  because something with ™ behind the name has to be better ;)

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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 06:52:41 AM »
To me Fuggles is more earthy and herbal which suits itself well with darker ales and EKG is a bit more grassy which suits to lighter english styles. I'm afraid I'm not much help with the others. For English pale ales and IPAs I prefer a blend of Challenger and EKG.
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 07:01:22 AM »
First Gold can give some apricot flavor and aroma.  Don't know the Sonnet hop, never used it.

I have a pound of the EKG ready to go, and some Willamette which is close to Fuggles.  Of the ones listed, I would order EKG and Fuggles to do classic recipes.
 
There are also some Progress, Challenger, Northdown, and Target pellets in the freezer.  Doing some of the English styles again.

 
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 10:54:45 AM »
Come on euge, you got to give me some reasons.  Those are the easy choices, but I haven't used First Gold.

LOL I used them a great deal about 4 years ago! A nice citrus quality to the EKG. I've bittered with Fuggles before followed by EKG. Was a very nice bitter though I usually have both of these as flavor and aroma hops.

I guess the First Gold would be a good purchase for it's dual-usage.
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 11:01:32 AM »
I would go with a pound of each if you could afford it, but if it comes down to money then I would have to give them a good sniff before I could make up my mind. For me it comes down to the aroma for most hops and unfortunately you probably won't be able to sample them.  :-\ Will they send samples?

Anyway...I usually keep EKG'S and Fuggles on hand most of the time. I'm also getting ready to place an order to HD.
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 11:06:09 AM »
Gary Glass and I have formed a Fuggles Haters Club....;)
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 11:08:12 AM »
Gary Glass and I have formed a Fuggles Haters Club....;)

Can I join? I think they're only good for naming a puppy.

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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 11:10:18 AM »
Gary Glass and I have formed a Fuggles Haters Club....;)

Can I join? I think they're only good for naming a puppy.

You're in!
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 11:20:56 AM »
Gary Glass and I have formed a Fuggles Haters Club....;)

I don't know why, but I do not like Fuggles either.  I tried them in several brews that I had made before with other hops and came away with an unfavorable impression.  There seemed to be a flavor that I did not agree with.  C'est la Vie. 
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 11:26:08 AM »
Gary and I agreed that what a lot of people perceive as "earthy" we find more "dirty" or "woody".  Join the club, Martin!
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Re: help me choose hops
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 11:39:22 AM »
Gary and I agreed that what a lot of people perceive as "earthy" we find more "dirty" or "woody".  Join the club, Martin!

Cheesey and musty to me, but I can understand what you mean by "dirty".  Send me a membership card.
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