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Irish Red Ale critique
« on: January 02, 2012, 09:06:39 AM »
Thinking about brewing up an Irish Red in a few weeks. Here's my stab at it. I'm using Wyeast 1338 which is low attenuating thus, I'll mash at 150°F . I would like it to be malty but not too roasty. LMK your thoughts...

Mead Lane Irish Red
OG: 1.056
IBU: 27.1
SRM: 13.8

5 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 57.50 %
3 lbs Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) 30.00 %
9.0 oz CaraVienne (Weyermann) (20.0 SRM) 5.63 %
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Dark (Weyermann) (7.0 SRM) 5.00 %
3.0 oz Roasted Barley (462.0 SRM) 1.88 %
1.00 oz Styrian Goldings [3.00 %] (70 min) (First Wort Hop) 10.9 IBU
0.50 oz Fuggles [5.20 %] (60 min) 10.5 IBU
0.50 oz Challenger [5.60 %] (30 min) 5.8 IBU
1 Pkgs European Ale (Wyeast Labs #1338) 
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2012, 09:35:22 AM »
Have you used 1338 before?  It does give great maltiness but wow, is it slow.  And it also builds up the biggest breadiest krausen I've ever come across.  Looks like you could scoop it off the top, toss it in the oven, and have a nice batch of biscuits to boot :)
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2012, 09:51:48 AM »
  Not sure if you would want to add so much roasted barley. Maybe something like 8.0 oz of Caramunich II (45L) and 3.0 oz of C80 to get better malty flavor and the darker color without too much roast. Maybe only 1.0 oz of roasted barley on top of that.

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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2012, 10:49:31 AM »
Have you used 1338 before?  It does give great maltiness but wow, is it slow.  And it also builds up the biggest breadiest krausen I've ever come across.  Looks like you could scoop it off the top, toss it in the oven, and have a nice batch of biscuits to boot :)
Nope, never used before. Thanks for the heads up...
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2012, 10:52:50 AM »
  Not sure if you would want to add so much roasted barley. Maybe something like 8.0 oz of Caramunich II (45L) and 3.0 oz of C80 to get better malty flavor and the darker color without too much roast. Maybe only 1.0 oz of roasted barley on top of that.
I used 4oz of RB in a Scottish 80 before and it wasn't too bad. I see a lot of recipes use up to 12 oz RB in an Irish Red so I was hoping 3 oz would be just about right.
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 06:12:32 PM »
Brewing 15 gallons of this next weekend and didn't have enough of some grains so I'm changing this up a bit. Does it look OK?:

4 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 40.51 %
2 lbs 4.0 oz Pilsen (Best Malz) (1.8 SRM) 22.78 %
2 lbs 4.0 oz Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) 22.78 %
8.0 oz CaraVienne (Weyermann) (20.0 SRM) 5.06 %
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Dark (Weyermann) (7.0 SRM)  5.06 %
4.0 oz CaraAroma (Weyermann) (150.0 SRM) 2.53 %
2.0 oz Roasted Barley (462.0 SRM) 1.27 %

Been toying with the idea of Americanizing it a bit. I'm considering a hop schedule like this:

0.60 oz Hallertauer [4.30 %] (60 min) 10.4 IBU
0.40 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) 10.2 IBU
1.00 oz Hallertauer [4.30 %] (5 min) 2.9 IBU

Am I crazy???

« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 06:15:30 PM by poobah58 »
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 07:03:19 PM »
Brewing 15 gallons of this next weekend and didn't have enough of some grains so I'm changing this up a bit. Does it look OK?:

4 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 40.51 %
2 lbs 4.0 oz Pilsen (Best Malz) (1.8 SRM) 22.78 %
2 lbs 4.0 oz Vienna Malt (Weyermann) (3.0 SRM) 22.78 %
8.0 oz CaraVienne (Weyermann) (20.0 SRM) 5.06 %
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Dark (Weyermann) (7.0 SRM)  5.06 %
4.0 oz CaraAroma (Weyermann) (150.0 SRM) 2.53 %
2.0 oz Roasted Barley (462.0 SRM) 1.27 %

Been toying with the idea of Americanizing it a bit. I'm considering a hop schedule like this:

0.60 oz Hallertauer [4.30 %] (60 min) 10.4 IBU
0.40 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (60 min) (First Wort Hop) 10.2 IBU
1.00 oz Hallertauer [4.30 %] (5 min) 2.9 IBU

Am I crazy???



  Not crazy, just getting started ;)

 Also add an ounce of Cascade at the end of the boil for some more craziness

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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 06:22:28 AM »
  Not crazy, just getting started ;)
 Also add an ounce of Cascade at the end of the boil for some more craziness
I thought about that but I thought it might take it over the top.....
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 08:29:38 AM »
Sometimes I think I think too much! Going with this tomorrow
(Amounts seem weird because I scaled down a 15 gallon batch):

8 lbs 5.3 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 83.33 %
12.0 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) 7.50 %
5.3 oz CaraVienne (Weyermann) (20.0 SRM) 3.33 %
5.3 oz Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) 3.33 %
2.0 oz CaraAroma (Weyermann) (150.0 SRM) 1.25 %
2.0 oz Roasted Barley (462.0 SRM) 1.25 %
0.50 oz Northern Brewer [9.00 %] (60 min) 18.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (30 min) 7.2 IBU
0.75 oz Mt. Hood [4.60 %] (10 min) 2.8 IBU
1 Pkgs European Ale (Wyeast Labs #1338)
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 09:13:07 PM »
Have you used 1338 before?  It does give great maltiness but wow, is it slow.  And it also builds up the biggest breadiest krausen I've ever come across.  Looks like you could scoop it off the top, toss it in the oven, and have a nice batch of biscuits to boot :)
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 08:26:59 PM »
8 lbs 5.3 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 83.33 %
12.0 oz Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) 7.50 %
5.3 oz CaraVienne (Weyermann) (20.0 SRM) 3.33 %
5.3 oz Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) 3.33 %
2.0 oz CaraAroma (Weyermann) (150.0 SRM) 1.25 %
2.0 oz Roasted Barley (462.0 SRM) 1.25 %
0.50 oz Northern Brewer [9.00 %] (60 min) 18.1 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [7.00 %] (30 min) 7.2 IBU
0.75 oz Mt. Hood [4.60 %] (10 min) 2.8 IBU
1 Pkgs European Ale (Wyeast Labs #1338)
Just tapped this one. This is a nice Irish Red. Really like this yeast. Got some maltiness to it and quite the long lasting head. The cascade was a good addition. The only caveat I have is that it's not red! Any ideas?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2012, 08:29:25 PM by poobah58 »
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2012, 08:40:34 PM »
What color is it?
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Re: Irish Red Ale critique
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 02:52:21 PM »
What color is it?
It's a light brown/medium orange color.
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