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Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« on: January 17, 2010, 09:41:24 PM »
I had my first Founders Red's Rye. I loved it! I really liked the contribution of the rye. While I'm not going for a clone, I'd like to make something similar. How does this look?

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.00 gal     
Boil Size: 7.40 gal
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 11.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 72.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 70 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU     
11.50 lb      Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        69.70 %       
3.00 lb       Rye Malt (4.7 SRM)                        Grain        18.18 %       
1.25 lb       Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM)     Grain        7.58 %       
0.50 lb       Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM)              Grain        3.03 %       
0.25 lb       Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM)                  Grain        1.52 %       
1.25 oz       Pearle [8.00 %]  (60 min)                 Hops         26.7 IBU     
0.50 oz       Pearle [8.10 %]  (30 min)                 Hops         8.3 IBU       
1.00 oz       Amarillo Gold [8.50 %]  (30 min)          Hops         17.4 IBU     
0.75 oz       Amarillo Gold [8.50 %]  (20 min)          Hops         10.3 IBU     
0.75 oz       Amarillo Gold [8.50 %]  (10 min)          Hops         6.2 IBU       
0.75 oz       Amarillo Gold [8.50 %]  (5 min)           Hops         3.4 IBU       
1.00 oz       Amarillo Gold [8.50 %]  (Dry Hop 3 days)  Hops          -           
0.75 oz       Amarillo Gold [8.50 %]  (0 min)           Hops          -           
1 Pkgs        American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056)          Yeast-Ale   

Mash at 152-153 for 60 min.

How does it look?
Travis R.

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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 10:05:47 AM »
Never had the Founder's rye, nor do I know anything about it, but the grain in your recipe is so close to my Rye IPA recipe that it should make a really good beer, at least.
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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 10:11:41 AM »
Looks really good. My bet is it will turn out very good too. I really like the contribution that rye lends to a beer.
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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 10:15:22 AM »
Thanks guys. How would splitting the crystal between C120 and C40 change the recipe?
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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 11:21:55 AM »
Denny, the malt flavor of the Founder's Red's Rye is similar to your "Wry Smile", but the hopping is much different as you can imagine.  Very good on tap at the brewery, the dry hops were really prominant the last time I was there.
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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 11:38:05 AM »
but the hopping is much different as you can imagine.

I've made a Rye IPA with lots of Cascade/Centennial hops and, while it's taken gold in a competition, several comments were along the lines of "the hops overwhelm the malt so the rye doesn't really get a chance to come through".  I'm wondering if that's why Denny uses so much Mt. Hood where I had used Cascade/Centennial. But on the other hand, he does dry hop with Columbus which I think is also one of the "citrusy/grapefruit" american hops like the others so maybe I'm right back where I started, confused, that is.
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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 03:21:38 PM »
Here's what I settle on, based on some feedback from Founders Brewing and others:

Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.40 gal
Estimated OG: 1.066 SG
Estimated Color: 12.8 SRM
Estimated IBU: 70.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 70 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 76.62 %
1.50 lb Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 9.99 %
0.63 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4.20 %
0.63 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 4.20 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.33 %
0.25 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 1.67 %
1.25 oz Pearle [8.00 %] (60 min) Hops 27.8 IBU
0.75 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 13.6 IBU
0.50 oz Pearle [8.10 %] (30 min) Hops 8.6 IBU
0.75 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (20 min) Hops 10.7 IBU
0.75 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 6.4 IBU
0.75 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 3.5 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale

Mash 152-153
Travis R.

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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2010, 05:27:01 AM »
How did you turn out with this beer Travis?  I'm thinking of doing a similar brew with Cascade in the near future.

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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 08:09:56 AM »
Never had the Founder's rye, nor do I know anything about it, but the grain in your recipe is so close to my Rye IPA recipe that it should make a really good beer, at least.
Hey Denny,

Do you have your Rye IPA recipe posted anywhere on this forum?

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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010, 08:24:46 AM »
Never had the Founder's rye, nor do I know anything about it, but the grain in your recipe is so close to my Rye IPA recipe that it should make a really good beer, at least.
Hey Denny,

Do you have your Rye IPA recipe posted anywhere on this forum?

It's in the recipe section...

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/DCRyeIPA
Joe

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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 08:28:09 AM »
Never had the Founder's rye, nor do I know anything about it, but the grain in your recipe is so close to my Rye IPA recipe that it should make a really good beer, at least.
Hey Denny,

Do you have your Rye IPA recipe posted anywhere on this forum?

It's in the recipe section...

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/DCRyeIPA
Thanks! For some reason I couldn't find it....

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Re: Rye IPA. I need some feedback!
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 09:06:55 AM »
hanks! For some reason I couldn't find it....

Yeah, since it's got a noticeable amount of rye in it, it's filed correctly in Category 23 - Specialty Beer and not under IPA.
Joe