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Propane Burners
« on: January 22, 2010, 10:29:41 AM »
I've been using the same 55k BTU burner for years doing both 5 and 10 gallon batches.  For the 10 gallon batches I have been getting sick of heaving my kettle onto the burner with the temp of the wort at that point at around 140-150 and then waiting an hour or more to get a boil.  I think I'm going to buy one of the 210K Banjo Burners, but just wanted to check with folks about how much propane they eat up......Do you go through a lot more gas?

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 01:05:52 PM »
Why not drain the mash tun into the kettle while it's already on the burner? By the time I finish sparging (for a 5 gallon batch) the wort in the kettle is already at around 180°F.
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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 01:48:44 PM »
Why not drain the mash tun into the kettle while it's already on the burner?

If you batch sparge and you only own one burner, that may not be possible.  That's the way I run and I need my burner to heat my sparge water while the first runnings are draining from the mashtun.  Once I dump the sparge water in, I then have to lift the kettle (granted, only half full) onto the burner and the sparge runoff can then go into the "on burner" kettle.
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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 02:03:22 PM »
That's how i'm running it also, but I don't have a pump either.  I'm going to get a new low-profile burner and elevate my HLT and Mash Tun and rely solely on gravity for now.  I'm just wondering what kind of burner to get.  4x the BTUs of my current burner just sounds nice.

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 02:22:46 PM »
Why not drain the mash tun into the kettle while it's already on the burner?
If you batch sparge and you only own one burner, that may not be possible.

It isn't a problem for me. I just heat my sparge water to 200°F or so, set it aside, and by the time I'm done with the first runnings it's still plenty hot.
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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 03:33:33 PM »
Why not drain the mash tun into the kettle while it's already on the burner?
If you batch sparge and you only own one burner, that may not be possible.

It isn't a problem for me. I just heat my sparge water to 200°F or so, set it aside, and by the time I'm done with the first runnings it's still plenty hot.

+1 That's what I do and I have two burners.  That way I only have to get one of the out.

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2010, 03:51:41 PM »
So.......how much more gas do the bigger burners use? A lot....A little.  Are they terribly in-efficient?

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 04:44:09 PM »
So.......how much more gas do the bigger burners use? A lot....A little.  Are they terribly in-efficient?

You were asking about the 210K banjo which I know little about other than I believe it has a 30PSI regulator.  I use the 185K Bayou Classic SP-10 which uses a 20PSI regulator.  I wouldn't call mine inefficient as I easily get probably a half-dozen batches per 20lb tank (I mix in some grill time on the tank so I don't have an exact count).  You only really need to crank the gas while you're getting up to boil, once you're there, (at least on the SP-10) you can turn it down to a trickle of gas just to maintain the boil.
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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 04:56:38 PM »
Hey Mikey
check out this thread at the BN
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16238

The short story IIRC, is to stick with the 4" burner as the big ol banjo ones aren't as good.   At least that's what one of the posters said.   Oh, and check out the prices at agrisupply.   4" 180K btu burner for $8.... sounds like a good deal to me.

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2010, 07:05:47 AM »
I think it's (210K banjo) pretty good compared to the 55K burner I have.  For a 6 gal batch I'm using about 6 lbs of propane for everything (boil, mash, sparge).  For a 10 gal batch I don't use much more than that for some reason only like .5 lb more.

I was using about the same with the 55K burner except I couldn't do a 10 gal batch.

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 02:51:10 PM »
At my local Academy sports they sell the 160K for less thgan the 80..TWENTY BUX!!

http://www.academy.com/index.php?page=content&target=products/recreation/grilling/fryers&start=0&selectedSKU=0267-40037-0002

anything over 90KI BTU will work.
I live in Louisiana-5 miles from Metal Fusion  who are the big maker (under many brand names)of "Cajun" and Bayou" etc burners and even at their rare "damaged"goods sale they aren't this cheap
..have U considerd an electric heat stick?...the energy can be contained with insulation and not wasted as in propane and U can get to 190 degrees easily-EASY to build.Above 210 degrees requires HUGE energy to convert liquid to steam
   IMHO,I would ditch the low BTU burner and for 20-30 bux get the 160K and heat 1st water with it then use electric for subsequent water.The problem with storing hot water for future use is that >180 plastic used in coolers WILL leach.I don't know your finances but U could buy TWO for 20 bux each
Re:efficiency-I made a metal shroud for liquor tank as well as boiler whose sides I wrap with a blanket while boiling and always keep the flame within the circumference of the pot...having flames lick the pot is wasteful and NOT any quicker
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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 06:19:49 PM »
I am looking into propane burners as well.  There is a local store selling the Camp Chef High Intensity burner for $54.  http://www.amazon.com/Camp-Chef-SHP-RL-Pressure-Detachable/dp/B0001D32QK  would this be good for a 10 gallon boil?

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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 07:18:36 PM »
Camp Chef High Intensity burner for $54

That one says 75K Btu.  You'd probably be a lot better of with the SP-10...
http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-SP10-High-Pressure-Outdoor/dp/B000291GBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=garden&qid=1264644924&sr=1-1
...that'll give you 185K Btu and it's only $39.96 with free shipping.
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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 08:18:36 PM »

That one says 75K Btu.  You'd probably be a lot better of with the SP-10...
http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-SP10-High-Pressure-Outdoor/dp/B000291GBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=garden&qid=1264644924&sr=1-1
...that'll give you 185K Btu and it's only $39.96 with free shipping.


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Re: Propane Burners
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 08:22:07 AM »
There is a review on this burner that states that kettles made out of kegs do not sit properly on it.  Has anyone had this difficulty?

http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-SP10-High-Pressure-Outdoor/dp/B000291GBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=garden&qid=1264644924&sr=1-1