[liquidbrewing]

So, I'm thinking about brewing a  IIPA soon, wanted to see what everyone thought of this recipe.  It's been a while since I brewed a double IPA.

11 gallon batch
90 minute boil time
 
OG 1.089 / FG Estimate 1.015

30.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 87.59 %

2.00 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 5.84 %

1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2.92 %

0.25 lb Pale Chocolate Malt (215.0 SRM) Grain 0.73 %

2.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (90 min) Hops 37.9 IBU

1.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 30.7 IBU

1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (20 min) Hops 7.0 IBU

2.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (5 min) Hops 7.1 IBU

2.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (0 min) Hops -  

1.00 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM)

  Probably dry hop with an ounce each of Warrior and Simcoe for a week.

 

[repo]

Looks alright.  What are your 5 favorite commercial examples? I think that info would help people give better advice.

[majorvices]

too much crystal malt IMO. A IIPA should be about one thing: hop flavor and aroma. Malt should be subdued. You also don't need a 90 and a 60 minute hop addition. And you are wasting the simcoe at anything before 10 minutes IMO.

[majorvices]

might also bump up your dry hop and add in some amarillo

[narvin]

Drop the carapils, double the late addition hops. 

[a10t2]

MOAR HOPS.

[snowtiger87]

 I would drop the cara-pils as well, and increase the corn sugar to 10% of the fermentables and drop the pale malt accordingly.

[majorvices]

Yeah, when I said too much crystal malt I was looking at the cara pils in particular. Totally not needed (even if it is an ingredient in Pliny I always thought it was there "just because"). And definitely more hops. Especially in the last 5 minutes, flame out and dry hop. When you see a good IIPA recipe the aroma hop addition should look almost ridiculous.

[ryang]

When you see a good IIPA recipe the aroma hop addition should look almost ridiculous.

fixed that

[narvin]

Drop the carapils, double the late addition hops. 

Fixed that for me 

[repo]

Hops, yes I use more than that in a 5.5 gallon batch. By alright I meant it fit the "style" guidelines.

[hoser]

Why the pale chocolate?  Seems unnecessary....

[liquidbrewing]

Ok, I'll tinker with the recipe.  Gonna nix the chocolate and adjust the finishing/dry hops.

I'm also wondering why basically everyone is vehemently opposed to the use of Carapils, not just in this recipe, but I've gathered that from other posts as well.  Am I wasting my money on dextrine malt?

Also, I have had great results when bittering with Simcoe.  I did an all Simcoe/Maris Otter Smash a while back, 90 minute boil, with a bittering addition and 3 finishing additions, no dry hop and it was fantastic.

Too much Simcoe, Weyerbacher Double Simcoe IPA.  Straight up peppers and onions to me.

In no particular order:

1. Dogfish Head 90 Minute
2. Great Divide Hercules IIPA
3.  Dogfish Head DFH Ale  (Only at Rehobeth Brew Pub, honestly the best IIPA I've ever had)
4. Bells Hopslam
5.  Russian River Pliny the Elder

[repo]

Ok, you wanna brew what you wanna drink. I think your recipe would fit that bill, an east coast imperial ipa is how I'd describe it. Malty and alcoholy with some hops. And it seems to coincide with your fav commercial beers (except for the Pliny).  Carapils is a body malt so it goes well when looking for some body. Which in this case I think that you are.

[majorvices]

Re: Carapils. I'm not against using it, it's a tool. Use it when needed. But in a IIPA you are trying to have the beer fairly dry with the useage of sugar - so it doesn;t make sense to bump the body back up with the addition of cara pils (especially 2 lbs, that's an awful lot). You have the crystal in there to give it some residual sweetness. Leave that and take out the cara pils.

Re: Simcoe. As a pro-brewer that can't get a contract for simcoe until next year it pains me to see anyone waste it as a bittering hop. It's like when my wife uses my Basil Haydens in a whiskey sour. But it's your hop, use it where you want. But use more finishing hops for sure. If you're not sure you like simcoe then bump up the centennial and amarillo.