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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2013, 10:33:08 AM »
My first thought was take off the head and take it apart. See what's going on with the impeller. Could be junk in there or some other problem binding up the impeller.

That's exactly what happened to mine recently.  Took it apart and cleaned it out and it worked great.
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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2013, 06:16:32 PM »
I am trying to determine my need for a pump with my set up. I currently brew 5 gallon batches and use a 10 g HLT, 10 g cooler mash tun, and a 15 g kettle to brew. I'm considering a pump for moving water from my HLT to my cooler. Right now, I have to pick up the 5+ gallons of 150 degree + mash water and dump it into my cooler, and I know it's only a matter of time before I dump this on myself in some capacity. My question is this: Are there effective alternatives to investing in a pump? I don't have the materials to use a gravity fed system to simply drain it down. Any suggestions regarding alternatives or additional info on pumps would be greatly appreciated! Happy brewing!

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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2013, 06:39:15 PM »
Gravity setup would be quite tall and require a ladder. Pump is nice  but you'll soon discover you want fittings and hoses and clamps. The only other techniques I've heard of involve using pulleys or block and tackle to raise containers full of hot liquor or mash.
Still seems dangerous to me. Personally I like my pump and my setup and don't plan to go back to a gravity setup.
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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2013, 01:47:38 AM »
I am trying to determine my need for a pump with my set up. I currently brew 5 gallon batches and use a 10 g HLT, 10 g cooler mash tun, and a 15 g kettle to brew. I'm considering a pump for moving water from my HLT to my cooler. Right now, I have to pick up the 5+ gallons of 150 degree + mash water and dump it into my cooler, and I know it's only a matter of time before I dump this on myself in some capacity. My question is this: Are there effective alternatives to investing in a pump? I don't have the materials to use a gravity fed system to simply drain it down. Any suggestions regarding alternatives or additional info on pumps would be greatly appreciated! Happy brewing!

I have a 2 quart pitcher that I use for sparge water. Pretty low tech.

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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »
I am trying to determine my need for a pump with my set up. I currently brew 5 gallon batches and use a 10 g HLT, 10 g cooler mash tun, and a 15 g kettle to brew. I'm considering a pump for moving water from my HLT to my cooler. Right now, I have to pick up the 5+ gallons of 150 degree + mash water and dump it into my cooler, and I know it's only a matter of time before I dump this on myself in some capacity. My question is this: Are there effective alternatives to investing in a pump? I don't have the materials to use a gravity fed system to simply drain it down. Any suggestions regarding alternatives or additional info on pumps would be greatly appreciated! Happy brewing!

I have a 2 quart pitcher that I use for sparge water. Pretty low tech.

Yep, same here.  Dip with the pitcher until the kettle is light enough to lift.
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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2013, 08:51:06 PM »
I like the pitcher idea! Do you lose much heat? I'm all about simplicity. Every time I've tried to "tech it up," I've ended up making brewing more difficult and created more potential for things to go wrong or leak!

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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2013, 09:59:13 PM »
+1 for using a pitcher till the pot is light enough to lift. 
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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #67 on: September 27, 2013, 08:22:03 AM »
I like the pitcher idea! Do you lose much heat? I'm all about simplicity. Every time I've tried to "tech it up," I've ended up making brewing more difficult and created more potential for things to go wrong or leak!

I have a stainless mash tun. So my mash water starts in the tun. But I heat sparge water in an hlt. I don't notice much temp loss caused by the pitcher  when I transfer that. Its usually 170° when I start and ends up about 160-165 for mash out.

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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #68 on: September 27, 2013, 01:33:02 PM »
I like the pitcher idea! Do you lose much heat? I'm all about simplicity. Every time I've tried to "tech it up," I've ended up making brewing more difficult and created more potential for things to go wrong or leak!

Nah, not enough heat to matter.  If you find you do, you can always bump up the water temp next time to compensate.  Take a look at www.dennybrew.com
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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2015, 11:19:07 AM »
Walt,
Is it possible to purchase a stainless pump head to replace the plastic one on the 809 HS? Also, is there more risk of trub, etc. clogging/catching in the larger upgraded impeller? Thanks!

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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2015, 11:52:33 AM »
Walt,
Is it possible to purchase a stainless pump head to replace the plastic one on the 809 HS? Also, is there more risk of trub, etc. clogging/catching in the larger upgraded impeller? Thanks!

Andrew

Hi guys, sorry i haven't been on here in a while...not sure why but i don't get notices when there are new postings on the thread...i figured there was no traffic here...
anyway yes you can buy just the stainless head if you like. The part numbers are:
0809-0150-0000 for the center inlet style
and 0809-0211-0000 for the inline version.
you can order one from any of our distributors.
You will also need a different o-ring if you change over as they are different size. that's part# 0809-0165-1000
As for the impeller...that depends on how much debris goes through the pump and how hard/soft it is. Most very soft stuff will get shredded in small amounts and pass right through....other will jam the impeller and decouple the magnets and you will loose all pumping action.

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Re: Questions you may have about March Pumps? post them here
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2015, 11:56:22 AM »
I have an 809 that I bought from someone retiring.  It has always run well for me.  This past weekend I had some issues with air locks causing free wheeling.  Whenever this occurred I would immediately shut the pump off.  I then would find it would not restart and I would notice the fan would pulse when the switch was turned on, but it would not turn.  The fan was magnetically held in place.  After a few minutes (potentially as the motor cooled) it would run.

Is there a potential dead spot in the motor windings or could it be overheating?

We would have to see the motor and test it....but from what you said in the posting i would venture to guess the clearance on the impeller ID is too tight and its sticking on the shaft when it heats up. it could be tight from the molding process or you may have sugar buildup from not cleaning it out good enough.....easiest thing you can do is drill the impeller center section out with a 17/64" drill bit to give it more clearance.