Vermont has just recently started selling Victory beers. So far I have tried the Hop Devil, Golden monkey, Prima Pils, and the Storm King Stout. They came recommended very highly from a friend but I have been very unimpressed (except for the Golden Monkey...I liked that). I find the hops to be very muddy in character and kind of grassy. I guess I'm finding it kind of hard to describe what in the hop character I don't really like. What do you all think of the victory beers?