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« on: March 18, 2012, 01:32:00 PM »
I tried brewing this and ran into problems hitting mash temp, etc. Not a good brew day. Needless to say, flavor is off, not what I expected. Liked the spicyness but something is off. My main thoughts on this though are on the hops. I used Columbus and Chinook but hadn't really used these before. I was mainly trying to add to the spicyness of the rye and didn't really want to add citrusy flavors so stayed away from the amarillo, citra, etc. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.

Est OG: 1.058
Est. FOG: 1.015
IBU: 67.5
Color: 16.5
ABV 5.6%
Batch size: 6 Gal

9# Pale Malt
1.75# Rye Malt
1# Crystal 40L
0.75# Munich Malt 10L
0.5# Victory Malt
0.5 # Crystal 120L
0.25# Chocolate Pale
0.5# Rice hulls

Mash @ 154, 60 min

Hop schedule:
Columbus (15.4%) - 0.8 oz 60 min
Columbus - 0.5 oz 15 min
Chinook (11.8%) - 0.5 oz 15 min
Columbus - 0.5 oz 7 min
Chinook - 0.5 oz 7 min
1 oz each of Chinook/Columbus - dry hop 7 days
Yeast: London ale III (Wyeast 1318) - Ferment at 68 - 7 days.

Overall, I was not hitting my numbers and it tastes like I have some off flavors in there so I might just try it again as is first, but wanted to get some feedback as well.

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 01:55:39 PM »
I tried brewing this and ran into problems hitting mash temp, etc. Not a good brew day. Needless to say, flavor is off, not what I expected. Liked the spicyness but something is off. My main thoughts on this though are on the hops. I used Columbus and Chinook but hadn't really used these before. I was mainly trying to add to the spicyness of the rye and didn't really want to add citrusy flavors so stayed away from the amarillo, citra, etc. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.

Est OG: 1.058
Est. FOG: 1.015
IBU: 67.5
Color: 16.5
ABV 5.6%
Batch size: 6 Gal

9# Pale Malt
1.75# Rye Malt
1# Crystal 40L
0.75# Munich Malt 10L
0.5# Victory Malt
0.5 # Crystal 120L
0.25# Chocolate Pale
0.5# Rice hulls

Mash @ 154, 60 min

Hop schedule:
Columbus (15.4%) - 0.8 oz 60 min
Columbus - 0.5 oz 15 min
Chinook (11.8%) - 0.5 oz 15 min
Columbus - 0.5 oz 7 min
Chinook - 0.5 oz 7 min
1 oz each of Chinook/Columbus - dry hop 7 days
Yeast: London ale III (Wyeast 1318) - Ferment at 68 - 7 days.

Overall, I was not hitting my numbers and it tastes like I have some off flavors in there so I might just try it again as is first, but wanted to get some feedback as well.

Could be the British yeast.  I don't care for British yeasts at all in my Rye IPA recipe and I've heard others say the same thing.


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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 04:39:16 PM »
You think the hops are all right?  That's my main concern.  I might switch out the yeast and use some pacman I have on hand to make sure I'm getting a real clean neutral flavor, but want to get some feedback on the hops.  Thanks.

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 05:03:19 PM »
Hops seem fine to me.


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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 05:41:59 PM »
Hops seem fine to me.


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Dude, I looked over your original recipe from Tastybrew, and I cannot fathom how you say the "Hops seem fine to me"??  The timing for the additions is off from your recipe, and Chinook is no substitute for Mt. Hood!  Man, stick up for your own recipe!! ;) :o

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 06:27:01 PM »
Yeah, but look at the grist....this isn't my recipe, it's the OP's.


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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 06:34:10 PM »
Yeah, but look at the grist....this isn't my recipe, it's the OP's.


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Oops... :-[ I got indignant for nothing!  Can't blame me for associating ALL rye IPAs with you... :P

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 06:40:30 PM »
Yeah, but look at the grist....this isn't my recipe, it's the OP's.


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Oops... :-[ I got indignant for nothing!  Can't blame me for associating ALL rye IPAs with you... :P

I appreciate your outrage defending my recipe.  ;)


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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 06:48:34 PM »
It's all good.  Thanks for the feedback.  I just wasn't sure on the combination columbus/chinook hops.  I might even just drop the dry hopping additions after drinking an arrogant bastard and then having a Sierra Nevada's ruthless rye.  I like dry hopping for the aroma, but in this case, it's all about the spicyness of the rye and flavor of the hops, not so much aroma.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 09:56:41 AM »
I made Denny's rye IPA and didn't hit the numbers and it was still great. Trying again - 2 weeks in and everything is going smoooooth.


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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2012, 10:41:44 AM »
I'll have to look up Denny's recipe and take a look.

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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2012, 11:05:44 AM »
I'll have to look up Denny's recipe and take a look.

You can find it here...

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/DCRyeIPA
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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2012, 01:12:24 PM »
In order to make this a red would you substitute about half the carapils with carared?

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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 01:27:01 PM »
In order to make this a red would you substitute about half the carapils with carared?

or add a couple oz of caraffa
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Re: Rye IPA
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2012, 01:50:38 PM »
In order to make this a red would you substitute about half the carapils with carared?

If you're talking about my recipe, you'd need more carared than that.  There's only 1/2 lb. of carapils in there.
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