[a10t2]

What drum? What business plan? I'm just questioning the many "professional" skeptics here. 

Well, that was my point. I *do* have a business plan (as, I believe, does Keith) and so we're probably as close as you're going to get to professionals (on this board). If you want real answers you can pop into ProBrewer, but I think they get pretty fed up with questions about starting up from people with post counts of one.

Sorry if I came down on you hard, but you were asking where the numbers come from, and I wanted to illustrate that I'm not just pulling them out of my... mash tun.

[bluesman]

I love the great success stories like Jim Koch. In 1984 he started the Boston beer company on a shoestring. Now look at him.

Now keep in mind he's the top 5%ers.

[majorvices]

Oh, I'll come clean sometime soon. You guys are all gonna think I'm crazy when I do, though. Especially given the advice I gave in this thread. 

[bluesman]

Oh, I'll come clean sometime soon. You guys are all gonna think I'm crazy when I do, though. Especially given the advice I gave in this thread. 

The suspense is mounting. 

[denny]

Oh, I'll come clean sometime soon. You guys are all gonna think I'm crazy when I do, though. Especially given the advice I gave in this thread. 

Keith, I don't think any of us need any more convincing....

[majorvices]

What's really bad is that it comes through over the interwebs - I'm much crazier in person. 

[majorvices]

OK, I'll come a little more clean. We are starting with 25K (not counting lease) - and it isn't enough. Our business plan doesn't even have us breaking even for the first 6 months. It's a lot of money and a very scary venture. It's also a blast!

[bluesman]

OK, I'll come a little more clean. We are starting with 25K (not counting lease) - and it isn't enough. Our business plan doesn't even have us breaking even for the first 6 months. It's a lot of money and a very scary venture. It's also a blast!

Are you starting a microbrewery or you tried to...?

[majorvices]

Yes. No. Maybe.

[majorvices]

And it won't matter if the beer is good or not!

[a10t2]

And it won't matter if the beer is good or not!

With some of the micros I've had, I'm not sure that matters anyway...

[bluesman]

Yes. No. Maybe.

 

That's a yes. 

[beerocd]

Sell future cases of beer via PayPal to all of us. Promise them by Christmas. Worst scenario is you are brewing your A$$ off at your house to pay off what you owe us. I'll buy a case - what's your paypal address and how much?

_{Yeah, there's probably a law against that - go ahead and tell us all about it.}

[babalu87]

Have to be able to make money on the FOOD end of it first.
The rest will follow.

Good food and a mix of house beer and regional/commercial beers on tap/bottled.

It will help not to have terrible beer as well.

[majorvices]

You don't have to do a brewpub to be a brewery, ya know. Running a restaurant is a whole 'nother enchilada.