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Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« on: March 30, 2012, 05:41:56 PM »
JZ suggests WLP500 or wyeast 1214. Reading the descriptions of these and comparing to some of the other Belgian yeasts I really don't know which to try. I was looking at 3522 (ardennes) but Denny mentioned something about a tartness with that one in another thread.

So, I'm open to suggestions...

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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2012, 06:27:39 PM »
My favorite Belgian yeast is 3787, hands down. I actually prefer it in lower-gravity Belgians, and go with 1762 for bigger Belgians. I've made just about every Belgian style with every Belgian yeast, and those are those are the two I keep coming back to. But I've never met a Belgian yeast I didn't like. Any of them will be great.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 06:29:24 PM »
I just made a blonde with 3787.  Haven't tasted it yet, but I've liked this yeast in the past.

I like the Ardennes, but it really shines in a tripel.

It might work in a blonde.  I don't think it works in a darker beer.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 06:56:04 PM »
JZ suggests WLP500 or wyeast 1214. Reading the descriptions of these and comparing to some of the other Belgian yeasts I really don't know which to try. I was looking at 3522 (ardennes) but Denny mentioned something about a tartness with that one in another thread.

So, I'm open to suggestions...

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Comments: Similar strength as a dubbel, similar character as a Belgian Strong Golden Ale or Tripel, although a bit sweeter and not as bitter. Often has an almost lager-like character, which gives it a cleaner profile in comparison to the other styles. Belgians use the term “Blond,” while the French spell it “Blonde.” Most commercial examples are in the 6.5 – 7% ABV range. Many Trappist table beers (singles or Enkels) are called “Blond” but these are not representative of this style.

I just made a Belgian Tripple / Blonde using the ardennes yeast strain. I'm not a too much of a style nazi. However, I found that the white labs version of  3522 (ardennes) is a cleaner fermenter than WLP500.  Which is why I would choose 3522 ardennes yeast strain.

I'm a big fan of WLP500 in Tripples, because it kicks up fruity esters, and a bunch of spicy phenols. But after trying the ardennes yeast strain, I would go with the ardennes strain for a blond because it's a very well balanced strain for the bolnde. 
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 07:02:34 PM »
I just made a blonde with 3787.  Haven't tasted it yet, but I've liked this yeast in the past.

I like the Ardennes, but it really shines in a tripel.

It might work in a blonde. I don't think it works in a darker beer.

In my opinion it most certainly does.  I'm currently on the 8th generation of this yeast strain, I keep on reusing  previous yeast cakes.  I most certainly recommend Ardennes yeast strain in Darker Belgains, Strong dark Belgains and blondes.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 05:54:55 AM »
Sean posted this link on another thread: http://traffic.libsyn.com/basicbrewing/KYBelgianYeastExperiment.pdf

I'm glad to see I'm not crazy to enjoy 1762 in my dark strongs. I always felt that 3787 gave a pretty strong clove character, though, so maybe I am crazy.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 08:20:47 AM »
Wow thanks! That's very interesting. Turns out the one that they said gave the "classic" Belgian taste (550) is supposed to be equivalent to the one I was eyeing at first (3522). I guess that would be a good one to start with. My LHBS only stocks White Labs so I'll see if they carry 550.

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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 08:34:56 AM »
I'm glad to see I'm not crazy to enjoy 1762 in my dark strongs.

1762 is the Rochefort yeast.  Rochefort makes dark strongs, so why would it be crazy?
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2012, 08:39:35 AM »
I just made a blonde with 3787.  Haven't tasted it yet, but I've liked this yeast in the past.

I like the Ardennes, but it really shines in a tripel.

It might work in a blonde. I don't think it works in a darker beer.

In my opinion it most certainly does.  I'm currently on the 8th generation of this yeast strain, I keep on reusing  previous yeast cakes.  I most certainly recommend Ardennes yeast strain in Darker Belgains, Strong dark Belgains and blondes.

Fair enough.  I'm not saying it makes a bad beer.  But I've done side by side fermentations and for my money the Chimay or Rochefort yeast make much better dubbels and darker beers.

My Ardennes dubbel is good.  Just not as good.

Ardennes is currently all I'm using for tripels.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2012, 08:59:55 AM »
Joe,
 I agree that Chimay or Rochefort yeast are very good for darker beers as well.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2012, 09:56:14 AM »
1762 is the Rochefort yeast.  Rochefort makes dark strongs, so why would it be crazy?

I don't really trust my palate, and I worry about giving bad advice. It's just nice to see other people arrive at the same conclusion.
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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2012, 08:16:13 PM »
I use White Labs 550 for my Belgian Blond.
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Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2012, 03:12:55 PM »
Ron and I used WLP530 in our blonde collaboration.  This is our go to yeast for most Belgian styles.  Leffe has 530 character IMHO.


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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2012, 09:25:58 AM »
I used 550 and man that stuff smells awesome! I'm normally a hop huffer but for this one I'm a yeast huffer!  :P

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Re: Yeast advice for a Belgian Blond (18A)
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2012, 09:44:21 AM »
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm struggling with this very issue this morning.

I have slurries of Ardennes, Chimay, Trappist High Gravity and Unibroue...

Currently leaning towards the Ardennes.

Has anyone used Chimay yeast in a blonde?  That's my freshest, as it is currently sitting underneath a dubbel.
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