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Adding oats during the boil?
« on: April 22, 2012, 07:41:48 AM »
Interesting read over at Mike's blog: http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2012/04/adding-oats-to-boil-coffee-stout.html

Has anyone else tried this? I wonder if it'd work with flaked barley?
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »
He's just adding beta glucans to the wort.  I don't think that is the best way to add them to the wort.  Its better to mash it and leave the grain in the tun and avoid any possibility of tannin extraction.
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 11:18:40 AM »
He's just adding beta glucans to the wort.  I don't think that is the best way to add them to the wort.  Its better to mash it and leave the grain in the tun and avoid any possibility of tannin extraction.

Are tannins always bad? I thought the tannin extraction during decoction mashing is part of what gives beer like Maerzen a nice structure.
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 11:24:12 AM »
He's just adding beta glucans to the wort.  I don't think that is the best way to add them to the wort.  Its better to mash it and leave the grain in the tun and avoid any possibility of tannin extraction.

Are tannins always bad? I thought the tannin extraction during decoction mashing is part of what gives beer like Maerzen a nice structure.

Why do you folks keep coming up with these things?!!!??!?!

You know I'm going to have to try it now 8)
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 11:59:36 AM »
I don't recall where I read it (perhaps BYO many years ago) but I have added oats to the boil.

Many years ago. At the time I was brewing all extract, and this was about the only way to get oats into the beer.

These days, I mash them with my base grains.

I can't recall what impact they had on flavor, but I'm still brewing the same base recipe so it must have been positive.

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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 12:02:11 AM »
He's just adding beta glucans to the wort.  I don't think that is the best way to add them to the wort.  Its better to mash it and leave the grain in the tun and avoid any possibility of tannin extraction.

Are tannins always bad? I thought the tannin extraction during decoction mashing is part of what gives beer like Maerzen a nice structure.
It is my understanding that tannins should not be extracted during decoction mashing because of the low pH.
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 06:43:03 AM »
It is my understanding that tannins should not be extracted during decoction mashing because of the low pH.

I'm just basing that on Kai Troester's interview on Brewing Radio.

http://media.libsyn.com/media/basicbrewing/bbr05-27-10kaidecoc.mp3

Starting around 27min: "Decoction mashing does extract more husk compounds, so the decocted beer tends to be slightly more robust tasting, and that works well for darker beers. There should not be excessive tannin extraction, but there is some tannin extraction. Decoction is not so much suited for a more delicate beer, like a German pilsner. German brewers may go out of their way to separate their husks from their grits and flour, just to minimize tannin extraction." He goes on to say that separating the husks is not really that common, though some German brewers do it, as well as Trumer, who calls it "endosperm mashing."
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 11:11:00 AM »
Interesting, thanks for that.
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Re: Adding oats during the boil?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 11:23:41 AM »
Interesting, thanks for that.

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