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Re: tipping?
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2010, 10:53:19 AM »
If you don't want to pay the "delivery" fee or tip the driver, feel free to go pick up the pizza yourself.  What is your time and mileage worth to you is what you should be compensating the driver/company for.
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2010, 11:03:25 AM »
If you don't want to pay the "delivery" fee or tip the driver, feel free to go pick up the pizza yourself.  What is your time and mileage worth to you is what you should be compensating the driver/company for.

You really want to be paid a neurosurgeon's hourly rate because he didn't want to pick up?
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2010, 11:30:58 AM »
The one thing that guarantees a small tip from me is if I give a larger bill than is needed to cover the tab and I'm asked if I want change.

That's a tough situation for a driver to be in. If I give you all your change, I risk creating the impression that I don't *want* a tip. If I ask, I feel borderline rude. Plus the logistical difficulty of making change without knowing how much the customer wants to tip - if the change is 12 dollars, do I give two fives and two ones, precluding the possibility of a tip larger than two dollars? Or a five and seven ones, risking not being able to make change for my next delivery?

I usually go for something like, "How much did you need back?" And try to put a little english on the word "need". ;)
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2010, 11:50:38 AM »
I tip generously as a rule.  Generally that means 20%, maybe just under 20%.  Bad service, I do the "minimum" 15%.  I have never not left a tip at a restaurant.

That said, I also have started avoiding giving my business to places where tipping is the norm, precisely because of the general attitudes surrounding tipping in America, as heavily exemplified in this thread.  A tip isn't really a tip if it is expected, and so yes, I do cook my own food (see the cooking subforums :D ) and I eat out infrequently, and I get in my car and pick up my own pizzas.

I'm not fond of the idea that if I don't make a "voluntary" donation in the form of a tip I am a bad person or will be scorned by the person expecting the tip.  And so, they don't get my business.  Granted, since I don't skimp on tips I am unlikely to invite the scorn of the tippee, but the false sense of it being voluntary is something I do not like and generally don't support with my dinero.

And yes, I have worked as a waiter and made the two something an hour myself.  At the same place I worked as a dishwasher, and in both cases, I made minimum wage (or more as was often the case as a waiter).

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Re: tipping?
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2010, 11:55:51 AM »
Hey nicneufeld, question for you... did you split your tip as a waiter with the cook, dishwasher, etc?  I know thats how they do it where one of my daughters work.  The other daughter is a bartender and she splits her tips with the bouncers.  

I suspect most pizza delivery drivers don't or didn't split their tips or undereported how much their tips were... and thats how the "delivery fee" came about.  It still doesn't account for the store keeping a portion of the tips for themselves though. 
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2010, 12:13:04 PM »
I was a bartender for eight years. My philosophy was that I would treat every customer with the same respect and service regardless of the tip. But if you didn't tip me you have to do without my singular wit and remarkably accurate insight.
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2010, 01:20:16 PM »
I was a bartender for eight years. My philosophy was that I would treat every customer with the same respect and service regardless of the tip. But if you didn't tip me you have to do without my singular wit and remarkably accurate insight.

Aren't you incentivising the wrong way? :D :D  :P
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2010, 01:32:24 PM »
Are you that lazy that you can't just count back some change?

It seems a little counterintuitive to characterize someone who brings food to your door as lazy, but when possible, yes, I'm pretty lazy. Most people are, which is why making tipping easier than not tipping is a win for me almost every time. Like I said, this isn't a hobby, it's my job. If I can get one extra tip a night, I just got a 5% raise. Using "need" instead of "want", parking with the dented fender facing the door, making customers fill out the tip line on the receipt, washing my uniform twice a week, stamping my feet to get the snow off, giving coupons to tippers, pretending to be a Colts fan; think of them what you will, but these things put money in my pocket.
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« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2010, 01:47:18 PM »
I like tipping pints.  ;D
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #54 on: February 04, 2010, 01:47:40 PM »
I was a bartender for eight years. My philosophy was that I would treat every customer with the same respect and service regardless of the tip. But if you didn't tip me you have to do without my singular wit and remarkably accurate insight.

Aren't you incentivising the wrong way? :D :D  :P
BTW:How freakin' old ARE you? Seems you've done enough to be 65.:D

Not that old, but have had a few different careers. When I was a bartender by night, I was working as a welder in the day. Working in the film and television industry actually. Building parts for sets and special effects.

Before that I was working as a line cook and eventually a chef before I burnt out on the restaurant biz. Being a bartender a few nights was still tolerable and great extra cash. GREAT! Lots of girls too. Man, those were the days, I dont think I ever slept more than a few hours a night back then.  ::)
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2010, 05:26:24 AM »
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2010, 03:13:14 PM »
Don't screw the workers by not tipping to protest a corporations policies.

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Re: tipping?
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2010, 04:22:31 PM »
Hasn't this thread had about everything said that can be said about it already?  Tipping, it Is the right thing to do although its the system that is inevitably corrupt by its very nature.  If employers actually paid a fair wage to start with, tipping, in and of itself would not come into question but employers "work the system" as much as those who will not look for work for a living.  

If you can't afford to pay someone to work for you, then do everything yourself without asking our government to make and pass special rules and laws to prop your sorry ass up.  If you can't afford to tip your waiter, cook at home as much as you can.  That seems pretty fair to me... jmo.   ;)
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Re: tipping?
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2010, 05:57:13 AM »

When does it stop?. A job is a job and you should be compensated for your work, by your employer, and not expect the customers to pay twice.

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Re: tipping?
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2010, 11:08:56 AM »
Oh thank god... I was NOT going to be the first one to quote Mr. Pink. :D
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