Ok, so I gotta situation here...

[kraftwerk]

thanks for the suggestions! Looks like I'll cut the existing grain bill in half and boost it with pils and wheat. Might still use the Hefe yeast and make a "schwartzweiss." I'll keep y'all posted. This could be interesting
!

[erockrph]

thanks for the suggestions! Looks like I'll cut the existing grain bill in half and boost it with pils and wheat. Might still use the Hefe yeast and make a "schwartzweiss." I'll keep y'all posted. This could be interesting
!

If you do go for the Hefe, let me recommend WY3638 for yeast. It's got some pretty bold flavor that worked really well in my last dunkelweizen and should hold up pretty well against your grain bill. Plus it has a nice vanilla phenolic that plays nice with the roasted grains.

[euge]

thanks for the suggestions! Looks like I'll cut the existing grain bill in half and boost it with pils and wheat. Might still use the Hefe yeast and make a "schwartzweiss." I'll keep y'all posted. This could be interesting
!

I think it'll be acrid and dominate your brew with the 1.75# of Blackprinz still in there. That is a whole lot of black specialty malt. And you'll need to condition it a long time- maybe 6 months at least.

[weithman5]

Ok, I had my head in my ass today.

A fairly common malady - often refered to as anal-cranial inversion.

i have a body sized tuning fork. wedge the prongs between shoulders and ass cheeks, reach between your legs and pull.  Note if you are also a wobbly headed oaf or fleshy headed mutant (thank you strange brew) you may need someone to hook the handle to their truck and pull.

[gandelf]

Kraftwerk; so is it cling clang brewery then? That brings back
some memories. I'm going to dig out some vinyl.

[kraftwerk]

Kraftwerk; so is it cling clang brewery then? That brings back
some memories. I'm going to dig out some vinyl.

Yep, I drive the Autobahn to work every day blasting German techno whilst drinking steins of dopplebock. 

[kraftwerk]

*UPDATE*

Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. I actually learned a lot about brewing with this one! I ended up taking about 1/4 existing grain bill (including the Blackprinz) and cut it with wheat and pale. Used American hops and WY3068. Kegged with 3/4 cup priming sugar. It now resembles a really clean, smooth wheat stout. I dialed up the hops a little higher than I would for a Dunkel (the original planned beer) and it balanced out perfectly. I'm super excited about this one!

Here's the recipe: http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=12521.0.

Thanks again!