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Possbile IPA recipe
« on: May 19, 2012, 10:58:32 PM »
So i was pondering a recipe for an ipa. I tend to like high IBU beers
Here is my idea. I know the crystal is not popular, i'm going a caramel color, with caramel taste as well any substitutes are welcome. I believe my O.G. was 1.067 with a final around 1.018, ~6.2ABV%, 15ish SRM, and 87ish IBU's. I also want to keep it a extract/partial mash recipe.


7lbs light LME
½ lb crystal 60l
1 lb caramel malt 40l
2lb victory malt
1 Irish Moss 15min
2oz Cascade -1oz 60min, .5oz 30min, .5oz 10min
1oz Centennial - .5oz 60min, .5oz 45min
1oz Citra – 60min
1oz Chinook- .5oz 60min, .5oz dry hop
1oz Amerillo - .5oz dry hop, .5oz 30min
1oz  Columbus – dry hop
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2012, 11:03:17 PM »
Well I know you were expecting this but...

1.5 lbs crystal is too much. That LME already has some crystal. adding that much more is.. well it's not to my liking but you are the brewmaster. I bet you would get a nice color from the victory and the 60L all by them selves. bump up the victory by another lb.

Also I see nothing but 60 minute and dry hop, you aren't gonna get a lot of hop flavour that way. maybe move some to FWH and some to 30 or 20? but again, largely a case of personal preference.
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2012, 11:09:35 PM »
Thanks for suggestions. I was not sure on the hop schedule. For the yeast is Safale-04 going to work with O.G. estimate?
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2012, 11:47:03 PM »
should be fine. Can't find info on how well it attenuates but It's not going to have a problem with the og. you might want to use 2 packs, or 3 of the 5 gram packs. Check out Mr Malty pitching calculator. it can give you the exact amount.
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 12:05:16 AM »
Thanks, I was thinking about adding 2packs
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 09:09:50 AM »
A quick calculation shows an OG under 1.060, assuming a 5 gal. batch.  You should only need one pack of yeast for that.
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 08:18:00 AM »
+1 - throw in some yeast nutrient for CYA
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2012, 08:24:59 AM »
Also I see nothing but 60 minute and dry hop, you aren't gonna get a lot of hop flavour that way. maybe move some to FWH and some to 30 or 20? but again, largely a case of personal preference.

yeah - more late hops.  Also, shame to use Citra at 60 - I'd reserve that strictly for late...
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 10:26:48 AM »
Also I see nothing but 60 minute and dry hop, you aren't gonna get a lot of hop flavour that way. maybe move some to FWH and some to 30 or 20? but again, largely a case of personal preference.

yeah - more late hops.  Also, shame to use Citra at 60 - I'd reserve that strictly for late...

I've never used Citra for bittering, but I've heard more than one report that it can lead to some cat pee flavors if you do.

If it were me, I'd take all your 45 minute and 30 minute additions and move them to 20 or 15 minutes. Take the Citra and use half at 20 or 15 minutes and use half for dry hops. Your current hop schedule will give you a lot of IBU's (too much, probably) and not a lot of aroma/flavor. Here's what I come up with when I tweaked the hop schedule you listed. I don't know the AA% of the hops you're using, or your batch/boil size, but this should put you closer to a reasonable BU:GU ratio.

HOPS:
1 oz - Cascade (AA 7) for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Centennial (AA 10) for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Chinook (AA 13) for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Amarillo (AA 8.6) for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Cascade (AA 7) for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Citra (AA 11) for 20 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Cascade (AA 7) for 10 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Amarillo (AA 8.6) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop
0.5 oz - Chinook (AA 13) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop
0.5 oz - Citra (AA 11) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop
1 oz - Columbus (AA 15) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop

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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 08:51:11 PM »
Thanks for the ideas on the hop schedule, my 1st draft i was just throwing random numbers around. I will definitly change the citra 60min addition (i don't want any "pee" favors in my beer).

I'm curious as to how much honey/sugar i should add to the mix and when to add it?
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 09:41:23 PM »
So I forgot that this batch will be a 3gal batch
here is my scaled recipe, should I break up the hop schedule into .35oz additions at different times, to better utilize the whole hop spectrum

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Hogback IPA

Brew Method: Extract
Style Name: American IPA
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3 gallons
Boil Size: 2 gallons
Efficiency: 70%

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.065
Final Gravity: 1.018
ABV (standard): 6.11%
IBU (tinseth): 76.28
SRM (morey): 15.18

FERMENTABLES:
4 lb - Liquid Malt Extract - Light (65%)
0.15 lb - Honey  (2.4%)

STEEPING GRAINS:
1.5 lb - Victory (24.4%)
0.5 lb - Caramel / Crystal 60L (8.1%)

HOPS:
1 oz - Cascade (AA 7) for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Chinook (AA 13) for 60 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Amarillo (AA 8.6) for 15 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Citra (AA 11) for 15 min, Type: Pellet, Use: Boil
0.5 oz - Chinook (AA 13) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop
0.5 oz - Citra (AA 11) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop
1 oz - Centennial (AA 10) for 7 days, Type: Pellet, Use: Dry Hop

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
1 tsp - irish moss, Time: 15 min, Type: Fining, Use: Boil

YEAST:
Fermentis / Safale - Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04
Starter: No
Form: Dry
Attenuation (avg): 72%
Flocculation: Medium
Optimum Temperature: 59 F - 75 F


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Date: 2012-05-23 04:37 UTC
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 05:31:26 AM »
Victory might be my new favorite grain.  Absolutely love the color and flavor it has. 
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 06:09:06 AM »
For an IPA, you don't have much going on in late additions. Dryhopping will provide aroma, but additions at the end of the boil will give depth to the aroma and flavor (I add them at ~ 170F while cooling).

You could use the same amount of a higher alpha hop later in the boil than your Cascade at 60 min (say... Centennial at 40 min, for example), then use your cascade at the end of the boil. I didn't run the IBU calcs, but it looks like you can.

If you haven't bought ingredients yet, then we open up all kinds of possibilities :-)

What are you going for? Are you trying to model a certain commercial example(s)?

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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2012, 04:15:00 PM »
I have not bought anything yet, i have redone the recipe and added some hops and rearranged the hop schedule. I'm really not going after a certain commercial example. I just the C's hops and want a good hoppy beer in tastes and nose.  I was thinking of adding a very small amount of honey malt as well. I was also wondering how much honey/sugar to added to dry out the beer a little bit (3gal batch).
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Re: Possbile IPA recipe
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2012, 02:53:03 PM »
I was thinking about using US-05 instead of US-04 any thoughts on pros or cons, on using this yeast for an ipa

here is modify recipe

Hogback IPA
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Method: Extract
Style: American IPA
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3 gallons
Boil Size: 2 gallons
Efficiency: 70%
Original Gravity:
1.069
Final Gravity:
1.019
ABV (standard):
6.51%
IBU (tinseth):
80.8
SRM (morey):
14.74
Fermentables
Amount    Fermentable    PPG    °L    Bill %
4 lb   Liquid Malt Extract - Light   35   4   59.3%
Steeping Grains
Amount    Fermentable    PPG    °L    Bill %
1.5 lb   Victory   34   28   22.2%
0.4 lb   Caramel / Crystal 60L   34   60   5.9%
0.6 lb   Pale Ale   37   3.5   8.9%
0.25 lb   Carapils (Dextrine Malt)   33   1.8   3.7%
Hops
Amount    Variety    Time    AA    Type    Use
0.4 oz   Cascade   60 min   7   Pellet   Boil
0.3 oz   Chinook   60 min   13   Pellet   Boil
0.3 oz   Amarillo   30 min   8.6   Pellet   Boil
0.3 oz   Cascade   30 min   7   Pellet   Boil
0.4 oz   Chinook   20 min   13   Pellet   Boil
0.3 oz   Amarillo   15 min   8.6   Pellet   Boil
0.3 oz   Cascade   15 min   7   Pellet   Boil
0.4 oz   Centennial   15 min   10   Pellet   Boil
0.3 oz   Citra   15 min   11   Pellet   Boil
0.4 oz   Amarillo   7 days   8.6   Pellet   Dry Hop
0.6 oz   Centennial   7 days   10   Pellet   Dry Hop
0.3 oz   Chinook   7 days   13   Pellet   Dry Hop
0.3 oz   Citra   7 days   11   Pellet   Dry Hop
0.4 oz   Citra   7 days   11   Pellet   Dry Hop
0.6 oz   Columbus   7 days   15   Pellet   Dry Hop
0.4 oz   Columbus   5 min   15   Pellet   Aroma
Other Ingredients
Amount    Name    Time    Type    Use
0.6 tsp   irish moss   15 min   Fining   Boil
Yeast
Fermentis / Safale - Safale - American Ale Yeast US-05
Attenuation (avg):
   72%    
Flocculation:
   Medium
Optimum Temperature:
   59°F - 75°F    
Starter:
   No 
“Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drank, I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I say to myself, “It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver.