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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2010, 11:41:18 AM »
Why would that be prohibited?

I'm not even going to pretend to know the answer, but 10 verses later you have:

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But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

So maybe we should just avoid discussing Deuteronomy altogether.

Please don't go there....as BB mentioned, this is an interesting and informative thread.  Let's try to stay on topic.
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2010, 11:45:13 AM »
I'm simply saying, if there are certain aspects of religion that *can* be discussed, I'd appreciate a list being written up, so everyone knows where the line is. If we're trying to find sources of kosher hops, that's clearly beer-related (IMHO), but I'm trying to forestall a discussion of the *origins* of the rules, which is just talking about religion (again, IMHO).
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2010, 11:57:44 AM »
Denny;
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2010, 12:09:18 PM »
I worked for a Jewish caterer too. They made great food. The Rabbi just came in the kitchens from time to time to inspect everything, ingredients as well as cleanliness, which was very strict there.   He explained that kosher is basically a higher level of purity.

When they did latt kosher events it was kinda strange. Non Jews like myself (if I remember right) were not allowed to work on the food, or even be in the room with it. But talking to the Rabbi, that was not so much because it was glatt but just a stricter form of kosher. Glatt kosher means the animal has to be butchered in a kosher way then its organs are inspected and have to be pure and clean in order to be accepted as glatt. A higher standard purity. I wonder if halal meat is the same thing?

Anyways, I think discussing kosher is outside of religion. Its a way of handling and preparing ingredients for things that you are going to put into your body. Some people are stricter for whatever reason.

I by kosher foods, its usually really good stuff.  
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2010, 12:11:19 PM »
If we're gonna get general and not talk about hops, I'll split this thread and move it to the pub.
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2010, 01:54:27 AM »
1. "Mixing of crops in a field" - from the biblical prohibition of using two different types of animals to plough (together) -  also comes the prohibition of planting two different crops in the same field - or close to one another

Most hops are grown by themselves but some are grown with other crops at the base.

2. Possible problems caused by Jewish farm workers working in the field on the Sabbath

That is possible.

3. The processing of the hop flowers into pellets; is 'something' mixed-in to make the pellet 'better' e.g. oils etc


I don't think anything is mixed in, especially not oils.  The flowers are frozen and processed cold.

4. Is the processing equipment used for other food-stuffs - and not properly cleaned between these different products.

I think only hops are processed by pellet machines.  It seems you should stick to whole flower (or some people say "leaf" but it is the flower they mean).

5. Contamination of the hops by bugs, insects etc. The FDA "allow" a certain (very small) % of contamination. Jewish dietary laws try and prevent ALL contamination.

Mites and aphids are common problems with hops.  Pesticides are used to control this.  Are pesticides contamination?  Some specific varieties of hops are more resistant to bugs.  I don't think the bugs end up in the finished dried hops though, so would that be okay?

An example of this is Nori seaweed (and the consequences affect Irish Moss also). Naturally grown Nori attracts micro-size seahorses which become dried in with the actual seaweed. And so is not Kosher. Kosher seaweed is grown in ponds without the little seahorses riding around.

When hops are dried, they are kilned over a few days to a specific moisture content.  I don't think anything is added.

Good luck and I think if you are serious and have money the farms will be willing to help you and could produce Kosher hops.

some links:

http://www.yakimachief.com/

http://www.freshops.com/

http://www.shmaltz.com/HEBREW/index.html



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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2010, 12:33:27 PM »
So thanks for all the help and advice.
The big news of today is that we got a kosher certification for hops from a German farm. I think they have a fairly decent range of hops - so, at least, we can move ahead.
I'd still like to find hops from an American source - (come on Puterburgh Farm) and I'll keep trying  any, and all, leads that you guys pass on to me.
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2010, 07:03:59 PM »
Let it see.
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2010, 10:31:47 PM »
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Re: Kosher Hops
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2010, 10:39:54 PM »
Beer is like porn. You can buy it, but it's more fun to make your own.
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