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Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« on: May 22, 2012, 04:19:17 PM »
Hello.  I'm a rookie.  I make a 5gal batch of Wheat Hefeweizen.  I did not check the gravity at the beginning of fermantation, but I check it now and it's 1.060.  I've left it in the fermentor for about a month hoping it needed more time.  I'm assuming that's incorrect.  I checked it 2 weeks ago and the gravity was the same.  Also, I know I pitched the yeast too early. I pitched it right as I poured the hot wort into the 2gal of cold water in ice I had prepared prior.  My guess is I killed the yeast and the brew has not been fermenting.  In the first week or so I did see some bubbles slowly evacuate through the carboy.  .  Any advice from a pro would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!

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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 04:30:21 PM »
I'm not going to go so far to say I'm a pro but I know enough to be dangerous  ;D

Yes, I would say you pitched your yeast too early and the hot wor t probably killed them. Unfortunately at a month in your brew is probably beyond saving.  I think you already have realized you need to pitch (add) your yeast once the wort has cooled to fermentation temperature.

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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 04:42:53 PM »
Definitely not a pro, but I have a suggestion. I'd taste a sample to see if its sweet. If it is, buy the cheapest pack of dry yeast you can get, rehydrate it in water no warmer than 75 and no cooler than 65, and then pitch it in and forget about it for a month. You may come up with something drinkable. Now if it tastes sour when you sample it, all hope may be lost and it may be infected with something wild. Good luck and post back what you do.
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 04:50:07 PM »
Yep, you definitely killed your yeast by adding it with your almost boiling wort.  A few other things, too. Without more details about your process I might be off here, so ignore the following if you are already doing this.......I wouldn't recommend using ice in the wort as it can contain bacteria. Using it in the water bath to cool your container is okay, but don't put it in the wort.  Also, be careful about pouring hot wort into a cold glass carboy (even with cold water in it). The temperature change can shatter the carboy.  Better to cool it down in your brew kettle then rack it into the cold water (or put cold water into wort, then transfer to carboy).  Anyway, we all make mistakes. Don't worry and keep at it, you will be brewing good beer soon!!
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 04:54:25 PM »
If its been two weeks you may want to go ahead and dump this one. And always chill your wort down under 70 degrees before pitching. When you get further along in this hobby you will begin to release how extremely important fermentation temperature, and yeast pitching temperature, are. I recommend buying a good hombres book - www.howtobrew.com
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 05:23:01 PM »
I am throwing out a guess here, but since I can't think of a hefeweizen that is much higher than 1.060, I would guess you still have sanitary wort, and I would follow big chicken's advice and throw a pack of WB-06 or another cheap dry yeast in the wort. Worst case, you lost a few more dollars and best case, you have a drinkable beer.


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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 06:14:36 PM »
i realize the risk of contamination using store bought ice dumped into wort but i have done it 60+ times and never had a problem.  i know some people freeze their own filtered water.  i started out using an imersion chiller, then ice dumping, now cfc.  from my experiences the risk of contamitation from ice dumping is minimal, i only stopped because i am trying to be more exact and consistent.

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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 06:16:44 PM »
I recommend buying a good hombres book - www.howtobrew.com

Bilingual autocorrect??
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 06:56:51 PM »
LOL. I think that was actually my typing error this time. But an hombres book might be a good read, too.  ;D
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 07:22:59 PM »
I am throwing out a guess here, but since I can't think of a hefeweizen that is much higher than 1.060, I would guess you still have sanitary wort

Not following the logic here.  How does the high OG result in the wort remaining sanitary? 

I'd probably chalk this up to experience, pour it out and brew again.  There's no telling what sort of changes that wort has gone through over the last month but I don't suspect it's good.  Just my opinion.

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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 07:39:24 PM »
I think the logic is the og was probably supposed to be 1060, still is 1060, therefore no bacteria or wild yeast have gone to work.  May or may not be true.  Taste it first if you dare.

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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 08:09:44 PM »
I recommend buying a good hombres book - www.howtobrew.com
Bilingual autocorrect??
OMG! I missed that the first time I read that. That's funny! If I had a dollar for every time my phone did a goofy auto-correct I'd have my own brewery by now.


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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 08:19:23 PM »
Taste it before dumping.  Always.  If it doesn't taste nasty I would pitch yeast and see what happens.  It's low risk.
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 08:39:02 PM »
I agree if it tastes even semi good. Try with the some cheap yeast and see if it starts fermenting. If it does I would bottle after its done fermenting and try one. I also would only try one beer the first time. I'm not sure if something can get in there that would be harmful to your health.

I've saved most of a batch that definitely got infected. White layer of mold at the top. But I carefully inserted my siphon and got about 4 gallons out of a 5 gallon batch. Nobody got sick and the beer was delicious.

But then again I guess it just matters how much you care about that batch. If you don't just start over.
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Re: Rookie Needs A Lil Help
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 10:08:14 PM »
I agree if it tastes even semi good. Try with the some cheap yeast and see if it starts fermenting. If it does I would bottle after its done fermenting and try one. I also would only try one beer the first time. I'm not sure if something can get in there that would be harmful to your health.

I've saved most of a batch that definitely got infected. White layer of mold at the top. But I carefully inserted my siphon and got about 4 gallons out of a 5 gallon batch. Nobody got sick and the beer was delicious.

But then again I guess it just matters how much you care about that batch. If you don't just start over.

There are very nearly no harmful organisms that can live in beer, or even wort for that matter. Now, something that can taste so nasty as to make you lose your lunch...
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