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First time using Rye malt.
« on: May 30, 2012, 07:30:28 AM »
 So I will be using @10 % rye malt in a blonde ale that I'm brewing this weekend. I have never used rye before but I like what it does in a beer. Does anyone have any advice on using it? such as special treatment during the mash, or special milling practices, etc....?

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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 07:35:28 AM »
Except for it having a tendency to get your mash stuck sometimes (shouldn't be a problem at 10%) I haven't really ever done anything different when using it.

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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 07:43:25 AM »
"Rice hulls, rice hulls, rice hulls"...

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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 07:58:31 AM »
A bata glucan rest at about 108-112F can help it to be less sticky. Some say they just do an infusion. A single infusion has worked for me sometimes, not on other times. I think that is system dependent.

Edit - I have a false bottom in the mash/lauter tun, and can have problems with rye. Denny Conn has a cooler with a braided hose and says he has no problems with rye. 
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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 08:44:40 AM »
 Okay thanks guys, I built my mash tun on Denny's design, so I'll just go about my mash as I normally do.

What about milling? I can see the rye grains are smaller than the barley, should I set my gap smaller or would that damage the barley husks too much? (BTW I bought my grain bill all in one bag).

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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 08:46:06 AM »
"Rice hulls, rice hulls, rice hulls"...

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Your efficiency will drop a few points. RDWHAHB.

I have never needed rice hulls with rye beers and that includes beers up to 45% rye.  Neither have I seen an efficiency drop.  How much does yours drop?
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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 08:47:03 AM »
Okay thanks guys, I built my mash tun on Denny's design, so I'll just go about my mash as I normally do.

What about milling? I can see the rye grains are smaller than the barley, should I set my gap smaller or would that damage the barley husks too much? (BTW I bought my grain bill all in one bag).

I have my mill set to a very narrow gap and mill barley and rye together.  No problems on either one.
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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 08:51:18 AM »
Thanks Denny, you're awesome!

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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 08:54:37 AM »
I have never needed rice hulls with rye beers and that includes beers up to 45% rye.  Neither have I seen an efficiency drop.  How much does yours drop?

Mine is usually ~ 7-10% lower when doing hef's of 50% wheat, ~ 2-5% when its a smaller addition. Only a big deal when I'm brewing for competitions.

Rice hulls are $1 at my LHBS, so its cheap insurance. Since they help sticky mashes be less sticky, I think it helps with stirring, clean up, and maybe even temp. distribution.
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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 09:22:00 AM »
I use a "Denny style" braided hose cooler for my mash tun and it gets stuck with more than 10% Rye if there isn't at least a half lb or so of rice hulls (for a 5 gal batch). And I also get about a 2-5% efficiency drop when I use more than 15% rye or wheat. I mill rye and wheat separately from barley at .025" while my barley malt goes through at .035."

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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 09:26:45 AM »
Ah, see, that's the problem!  Since I don't measure my mill gap, the rye doesn't know it's not supposed to get a good crush or stick the runoff!  Very clever, that rye malt!  ;)
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First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2012, 09:51:35 AM »
What would be a good recipe to use rye in. Other than a ipa?


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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2012, 10:36:49 AM »
What would be a good recipe to use rye in. Other than a ipa?

Haven't tried it yet, but I bet rye would be killer in a Saison.
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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 10:51:20 AM »
Rye makes a pretty good stout if ya ask me, and Denny's yeast too!
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Re: First time using Rye malt.
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2012, 10:56:29 AM »
What would be a good recipe to use rye in. Other than a ipa?


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