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Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« on: February 07, 2010, 09:37:40 AM »
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 12:23:06 PM »
For those really BIG batches.

Seems like a good deal since it's food-grade.
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 01:46:13 PM »
I would want to know what cancer causing, radioactive, poison, toxic gunk was in these first. I know it says they are very clean, but...
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 09:44:23 AM »
I would want to know what cancer causing, radioactive, poison, toxic gunk was in these first. I know it says they are very clean, but...

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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 10:40:24 AM »
How can they be cannibalistic AND humanoid? Unless they eat each other but not people - but that doesn't sound like a very good movie. No, the entire premise seems flawed.
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 11:02:41 AM »
I would want to know what cancer causing, radioactive, poison, toxic gunk was in these first. I know it says they are very clean, but...

That's a very good point. Where do they come from for instance? China? God only knows what was stored in them if that's the case.
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 11:44:03 AM »
How can they be cannibalistic AND humanoid? Unless they eat each other but not people - but that doesn't sound like a very good movie. No, the entire premise seems flawed.

No question it wasn't a very good movie (actually, it was so bad it was almost funny) but the premise fit right in with the concern  ::)

"The basic premise of the film is that homeless folks that live underground have come in contact with radioactive materials which transform them into horrible-looking mutants that go on a rampage and kill men and women for dinner. The creatures look quite impressive. This film also throws some social commentary into the mix as well concerning the ever burgeoning homeless problem as well as the storage of harmful wastes."
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2010, 05:12:29 AM »
If they are food grade they are probably fine. Stainless is really easy to clean and does not absorb very easy. We bought some 55 gal. drums a while back that had held vegetable oil and they cleaned up perfectly. The first batch off the system had killer head retention. That said, I would not have wanted to use them had they contained, say, motor oil. But I don't think people will spend the money for food grade tanks when they are storing toxic items. Food grade is extra coinage so no once is going top spend the extra money to store toxic soup in the more expensive containers.

Funny though, I have been having this exact same problem with my partners who let their imaginations run away with them about "what was stored in these things before". Granted, you need to be careful, but usually you can find out with a few emails or telephone calls.
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2010, 09:33:52 PM »
After doing a little digging, I'm pretty sure those barrels were used in the manufacture of Soylent Green.
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2010, 06:55:16 AM »
After doing a little digging, I'm pretty sure those barrels were used in the manufacture of Soylent Green.

Well, at least that makes them "food grade"
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2010, 06:59:08 AM »
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2010, 10:58:31 AM »
My effin g, I try to do my fellow homebrewers a favor
and find a source for a possible large ss vessel
I would want to know what cancer causing, radioactive, poison, toxic gunk was in these first. I know it says they are very clean, but...

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Pure ethanol will irritate the skin and eyes. Nausea, vomiting and intoxication are symptoms of ingestion. Long term use can result in serious liver damage.[81
Atmospheric concentrations above one in a thousand are above the European Union Occupational exposure limits.[81]

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50 0.05% Euphoria, talkativeness, relaxation
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The amount of ethanol in the body is typically quantified by blood alcohol content (BAC), the milligrams of ethanol per 100 milliliters of blood. The table at right summarizes the symptoms of ethanol consumption. Small doses of ethanol generally produce euphoria and relaxation; people experiencing these symptoms tend to become talkative and less inhibited, and may exhibit poor judgment. At higher dosages (BAC > 100 mg/dl), ethanol acts as a central nervous system depressant, producing at progressively higher dosages, impaired sensory and motor function, slowed cognition, stupefaction, unconsciousness, and possible death.

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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2010, 12:48:15 PM »
Euphoria, talkativeness, relaxation
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2010, 02:56:51 PM »
My effin g, I try to do my fellow homebrewers a favor
and find a source for a possible large ss vessel

And then WE consume ETOH willingly!   ???

To be sure, if I was in the market, I'd buy one of those in a heartbeat.
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Re: Possible Source for 55 gal SS barrel
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2010, 03:12:14 PM »
We bought some 55 gal. drums a while back that had held vegetable oil and they cleaned up perfectly.

Hey Major - What output were the burners you were using to brew in 55 gal barrels.  I have found a good local deal on them and was wondering how feasible it would be to use them.