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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2012, 02:37:23 PM »
What kind of update does Promash need?  It does everything I need it to do seamlessly.

It would be nice if it was Mac OS compatible for those of us that would like to use it without running an emulator.

Get BeerAlchemy...pretty much as good as ProMash, but with a better organized and much more intuitive  GUI than just about any brew software. 
And it's Mac native software (Mac only, actually)
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2014, 06:59:27 PM »
Oooold thread I know, but I still use Promash, runs on Win 98, XP and 7 okay.  I do not mind manually updating the databases as they as customized to use the ingredients my wife and I use to brew.

Sometimes use SUDS, too.
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2014, 07:29:08 PM »
Oooold thread I know, but I still use Promash, runs on Win 98, XP and 7 okay.  I do not mind manually updating the databases as they as customized to use the ingredients my wife and I use to brew.

Sometimes use SUDS, too.
I used Suds a long time ago, replaced with Promash and see no reason to change.
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2014, 08:00:12 PM »
You should update your database even with Beersmith/BeerAlchemy/BeerBananas/etc.  Hops AA% vary by year and farm.  Grain color and extract vary not only by brand but per lot... you can check countrymalt.com to get an actual lot analysis for you sack. 

Brewing software isn't magic and too many people don't understand what it's doing for their system/process/ingredients and end up way off the mark.
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2014, 08:09:04 PM »
You should update your database even with Beersmith/BeerAlchemy/BeerBananas/etc.  Hops AA% vary by year and farm.  Grain color and extract vary not only by brand but per lot... you can check countrymalt.com to get an actual lot analysis for you sack. 

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+1. Shiny bells and whistles often make people think it is "better".
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #35 on: May 01, 2014, 06:56:03 AM »
I have been very satisfied with Promash. And as stated earlier, it's only a tool. I am always tweaking things, and it did take some time to get some of the defaults (efficiency, thermal mass, grain abrorption etc) dialed in.
There are 2 things i would like to see: if they could provide database update(s) for grain and hops; and maybe enhance the decoction dialog box to do multiple decoctions like Kai's (see http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php/Decoction_Mashing#Hochkurz_Double_Decoction)
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2014, 08:17:14 AM »
.... and maybe enhance the decoction dialog box to do multiple decoctions...

The mash designer lets you specify any number of decoction/infusion steps....are you talking about something different?

I haven't found a reason to move off of ProMash.  It even runs fine on my Linux laptop through the Wine emulator.

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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2014, 09:28:16 AM »
I guess i am talking about the graph, cant manipulate the decoction steps
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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2014, 01:53:03 PM »
I guess i am talking about the graph, cant manipulate the decoction steps

The graph is just a picture of the steps that you have defined in the mash schedule/designer.  The steps can be anything you want them to be.  Here is an example of this weekend's Oktobfest:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwtFvvJ43Z3fZ2ZpQnpfU1RkaUE

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Re: GIve Up on ProMash??
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2014, 08:25:21 AM »
I'm cheap and also like to see and understand the workings of stuff.  So I've hydridized a few of the spreadsheets that are out there to batch sparge on my system and it does what I need.  Its endlessly changeable, I can input whatever changes to hops, malts, sugars, etc that I want.  Not for everyone I understand but I like it.