[dzlater]

I brewed a batch that called for first wort hopping.
Do you remove the first wort hops or leave them in
for the whole boil ? ( I left them in)

[tygo]

Yep, you leave them in for the entire boil.

[Thirsty_Monk]

I am not a big fan of FWH.
I did about 6 brews with it and all of them had harsh bitterness (my term).
I tried it with Saaz (Zatec) and Hallertau. 

[mikeypedersen]

I do it for my Pliny the Elder clone.  Seems to work OK there, granted that beer oozes hops, so it may only be good for beers designed to give you a Lupulin Threshold Shift. 

[denny]

I did about 6 brews with it and all of them had harsh bitterness (my term).

Interesting...I've found exactly the opposite.

[Thirsty_Monk]

I did about 6 brews with it and all of them had harsh bitterness (my term).

Interesting...I've found exactly the opposite.

This might be my subjective observation but JamilZ had similar comments about FWH on some recent BN shows.

I mean is it works for you go for it.
I am just sharing my experience.

Declaimer:
I color of my cooler is orange,
I fly sparge and recirculate,
decoction mash is not a stranger in my household

[mikeypedersen]

Declaimer:
I color of my cooler is orange

Nice, had to laugh at that one!

[denny]

This might be my subjective observation but JamilZ had similar comments about FWH on some recent BN shows.

Jamil participated in the FWH experiment tasting I did.  I'd have to check my notes, but I don't recall any comments about harshness.

And I forgive you your brewing sins! 

[Hokerer]

I am not a big fan of FWH.
I did about 6 brews with it and all of them had harsh bitterness (my term).
I tried it with Saaz (Zatec) and Hallertau. 

I've recently tried it with Cascade and Centennial and it's the smoothest hop flavor I've ever come across.  Definitely a keeper for me.

[mikeypedersen]

And I forgive you your brewing sins! 

Is that a fly-sparging reference?

[Thirsty_Monk]

And I forgive you your brewing sins! 

Thank you father  

[blatz]

And I forgive you your brewing sins! 

Is that a fly-sparging reference?

and decoction 

[blatz]

DC - I think FWH may work well with lower AA varietals (ahem, Mt. Hood comes to mind?) but I found when I used big boys like Simcoe, the bitterness was just overwhelming since I went with the "treat it like a 20min addition" philosophy. 

Of course, this makes no sense relative to TM's statement, since Zots are one of the lowest AAs out there, usually.

To each their own. 

[bluesman]

I use it for my Barleywine...and Denny's RIPA. It works great for those examples however it may not for less bitter styles. I think it will really depend on the type of hops and the style of beer you are trying to use and brew.

[Thirsty_Monk]

I think it will really depend on the type of hops and the style of beer you are trying to use and brew.

I agree. I tried it because I heard of SMOOTH bitterns.
I used it in Czech Pilsners and Alts.
May be it is my process but I come to a different conclusion.
I would not count it as 20 min addition.
I would say it was more like full boil time addition (90 min for me).