[denny]

And I am glad that the picture of you in that hat made it to the AHA forums, so everyone can see how hideous it is.

You misspelled "awesome".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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[narvin]

I think "that guy" can exist on either side of the bar.  You can have an opinion, but that's different from being clueless and vocal at the same time.

[narvin]

Also, I can attest that Sean likes to talk about beer. And I am glad that the picture of you in that hat made it to the AHA forums, so everyone can see how hideous it is.

I have a picture with Sean in that hat from Seattle, but I haven't posted it.  Problem is, I look like more of a douche than he does!

[dannyjed]

"that guy" can also go by the name of "Mr. Know-it-all"...never mind, it reminded me of a Stevie Wonder song.

[erockrph]

Now that I have enough brews under my belt to feel like I'm pretty comfortable with certain styles of beer, I often have beers that are completely not my taste or seem like something's off. Usually I can place my finger on it (i.e., too much crystal malt in pale ales). Sometimes I can't quite nail it down (i.e., something's going on with the yeast/fermentation).

Even if I don't like a beer, I think it's absurd to bust a guy's balls about it. Obviously he knows how to make beer that people enjoy or else he won't be in business long. I usually take it as an opportunity to talk shop with the brewer. If there's something I don't like in a beer, I generally ask as much detail about it without letting on that I'm not a fan. This way I'll learn exactly what not to do in my own brews.

Either way, no need to be a prick about things regardless of what side of the bar you're on.

[punatic]

"Stupid is as stupid does." 

One of the most liberating points in life is when you reach the point where others' opinions of you no longer affect your self worth.  Hopefully that point comes early in your life.  If you are happy with yourself and satisfied that you are living by your own values, who gives a s*** how others judge you (or your work)?

[majorvices]

I was at a brewery that made a cream ale that was harsh and unpleasant. Their water hardness was 246mg/L. I mentioned that to the brewer, and he basically said he didn't care what I thought. I'm sure he thought I was "that guy," but I'm also sure I was right. Being a wanker and being right aren't mutually exclusive. If you don't want feedback from the public, stop talking to the public.

Perhaps, in this case,  the brewer may have known what the problem was, but didn't have a means to fix it. Commercial brewers brew under different constraints than homebrewers. It's why I only brew certain style of beers at my location. "That guy" thinks he knows f'ing everything. But he doesn't really know sh!t. Don't be that guy. And don't make assumptions, either.

[phillamb168]

"Stupid is as stupid does." 

One of the most liberating points in life is when you reach the point where others' opinions of you no longer affect your self worth.  Hopefully that point comes early in your life.  If you are happy with yourself and satisfied that you are living by your own values, who gives a s*** how others judge you (or your work)?

+like a million

Of course it needs balance, otherwise you go too far off the other side and wind up looking self-centered. But in my experience, knowing enough and having enough experience to be comfortable confidant, that's a big thing.

[majorvices]

Well, FWIW, the only opinions of me that matter are from my friends and family. It's not a "self worth" thing. I'm not adversly affected by critiques. Hell, I'm also a graphic designer. Talk about people being critical!

All I'm saying is, as homebrewers, we should be careful about assuming we know more than the commercial brewer. It makes us look silly and it makes commercial brewers hesitant to interact with homebrewers.

[pyrite]

Well, FWIW, the only opinions of me that matter are from my friends and family. It's not a "self worth" thing. I'm not adversly affected by critiques. Hell, I'm also a graphic designer. Talk about people being critical!

No doubt you see how folks are often quick to criticize and reluctant to praise hard work.
 
I have in my office a quote from President Teddy Roosevelt, who said that “It is not the critic who counts … the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena”. I firmly believe in that sentiment.

[denny]

"Stupid is as stupid does." 

One of the most liberating points in life is when you reach the point where others' opinions of you no longer affect your self worth.  Hopefully that point comes early in your life.  If you are happy with yourself and satisfied that you are living by your own values, who gives a s*** how others judge you (or your work)?

Once I hit 60, I completely embraced that philosophy.

[madscientist]

I know someone like this.  He's a family member, and him and I were talking about Brewing and he was very quick to point out what was wrong with my entire process, or what he thought was wrong.  Just solidifed the fact that there's more than one way to do something, and if the things he does work for him, fine.  Personally I'm not gonna put any beer in a bottle that hasn't been hit with StarSan but that's just me. 

[Alewyfe]

Believe me, 90% of the time I'm ecstatic to talk beer with anyone, for any length of time (as anyone I met at NHC can probably attest).

OMG...you're a real person!!!!!  I thought you were just some loquacious incarnation of beer verbosity created to entertain people at the NHC. ;-)

[bluesman]

"Stupid is as stupid does." 

One of the most liberating points in life is when you reach the point where others' opinions of you no longer affect your self worth.  Hopefully that point comes early in your life.  If you are happy with yourself and satisfied that you are living by your own values, who gives a s*** how others judge you (or your work)?

Once I hit 60, I completely embraced that philosophy.

I try to stay within a stone's throw of this philosophy.  Although, sometimes I may get sidetracked by some negative comments, but often times I'm able to reel myself back in and avoid being drawn into such
nonsense. Avoiding this kind of exchange is condusive to my livelyhood. 

[nateo]

My momma always told me "You can learn something from everyone." 99% of whatever anyone says on any topic is probably bulls***, but if you can stand to wade through the muck, everyone has a diamond or two hidden in there somewhere.