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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2012, 01:06:35 PM »
Is it possible that your partner got the wrong impression?

I understand that there is always "That Guy" roaming the earth...
But, how are good ideas ever formed & exchanged, if not for conversation.
I wonder whether "That Guy" thought there was a dialogue happening between both parties, rather than the monologue that your partner may have been seeing.

Heck...I don't know what the conversation pertained to, but if I was talking with someone about running cooling lines & had a tip I thought might help their efficiency, I'd give them the tip...Would that make me "That Guy"?
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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2012, 01:30:46 PM »
Come one, guys. I don't think I have to spell it out any more than I have already. The implication seemed to be that our IIPA was not brewed to his specifications. (It's a 1.083 beer brewed primarily with 2 row, 5% sugar and 5% cara-vienne with a huge amount of centennial and columbus at WP and dry hopped with another equally large charge. At 7 bbls we use 29 lbs of hops before dry hopping. It's also one of our most sought after beers.) All I am saying is, have a little respect for the guys who have put it all out on the line. Try not to act like a "know it all". I think it is safe to say that since I am on this forum and the pro-brewer site everyday that I am not afraid to gather knowledge.
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« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2012, 01:32:26 PM »
I might point out again that the guy hadn't even tried the beer.
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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2012, 01:32:48 PM »
Whenever I find myself taken aback or getting defensive by what is being said, I try to remember the adage:  "separate the message from the messenger."  Don't focus on WHO is saying it, or HOW they're saying it; instead, focus on WHAT is being said.  Sadly, some people just do rub others the wrong way, and they may lack the proper use of tact and tone when asking questions or discussing their viewpoints.

Still, it is wise to treat everyone with politeness, even those who are rude to you--not because they are nice, but because you are.  Besides, if your beer is good (and everyone here says it is)--that pretty much speaks for itself, doesn't it?

 

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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2012, 01:47:07 PM »
(It's a 1.083 beer brewed primarily with 2 row, 5% sugar and 5% cara-vienne with a huge amount of centennial and columbus at WP and dry hopped with another equally large charge. At 7 bbls we use 29 lbs of hops before dry hopping. It's also one of our most sought after beers.)

Damn Keith!  I had to handcuff myself to the chair and throw away the key to keep from jumping on the next plane to Huntsville.  That sounds like my kind of beer!

Maybe you could come over and guest brew at Hawaii Nui for a while...  ;)
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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2012, 01:52:42 PM »
I agree!  I'd totally be all over that beer.

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« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2012, 01:54:13 PM »
I just brewed it again yesteerday, it'll be ready in 3 weeks or so. Ya'll come. ;)
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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2012, 01:55:51 PM »
Come one, guys. I don't think I have to spell it out any more than I have already. The implication seemed to be that our IIPA was not brewed to his specifications. (It's a 1.083 beer brewed primarily with 2 row, 5% sugar and 5% cara-vienne with a huge amount of centennial and columbus at WP and dry hopped with another equally large charge. At 7 bbls we use 29 lbs of hops before dry hopping. It's also one of our most sought after beers.) All I am saying is, have a little respect for the guys who have put it all out on the line. Try not to act like a "know it all". I think it is safe to say that since I am on this forum and the pro-brewer site everyday that I am not afraid to gather knowledge.

That guy is out there and he's everywhere.  I just ignore him and don't worry about what he has to say.

99% of the time, he's a douche anyway.

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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2012, 01:56:43 PM »
Come one, guys. I don't think I have to spell it out any more than I have already. The implication seemed to be that our IIPA was not brewed to his specifications. (It's a 1.083 beer brewed primarily with 2 row, 5% sugar and 5% cara-vienne with a huge amount of centennial and columbus at WP and dry hopped with another equally large charge. At 7 bbls we use 29 lbs of hops before dry hopping. It's also one of our most sought after beers.) All I am saying is, have a little respect for the guys who have put it all out on the line. Try not to act like a "know it all". I think it is safe to say that since I am on this forum and the pro-brewer site everyday that I am not afraid to gather knowledge.

Sorry, Keith...
I misunderstood & thought you were giving examples of what "That Guy" normally might inject into the conversation...
I didn't read the text of that post to be exactly what he was saying, to your partner.

At the same time...
So, he hadn't yet tried your beer & wanted to discuss how he'd make a IIPA differently...
Is that insulting?
Even modest folks have opinions.

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I understand that there are negative people, everywhere.
They come in all shapes, sizes & occupations.
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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2012, 02:25:13 PM »
I guess it was insulting, but mostly I just thought it was stupid. But no apologies necessary. It's cool.

Let me put it another way, I met Rob Widmer at NHC and I walked up and shook his hand and told him how much of the specialty beers they were serving at the NHC were extremely delicious (and, they were) and how I enjoyed seeing old pictures of his brewery because it reminded me of the stuff I was brewing on now (home made, much of it) and thanked him. I didn't go into telling him that I thought he should call his "hefe-wezien" an American Wheat beer or that, no, I don't enjoy many of the mass produced beers he ships across country. The guy has a successful business, way more successful than mine. Who am I to walk up and criticize him?
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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2012, 02:27:58 PM »
Who am I to walk up and criticize him?

Exactly. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2012, 05:17:27 PM »
I feel for ya Major. I get the same thing in the sheet metal shop. Everyone knows how to do it better than the guy they hired to do it for them.  ::) I say, you don't like how I do it, then do it yourself.
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Re: "Homebrewers" (insert eyeroll)
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2012, 06:31:59 PM »
Rob Widmer's college roommate lives here in town. He said he had never seen more beer on tap in someone's living room until he met me. ;D
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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2012, 07:13:48 PM »
the part of this that the original post stated- and mentioned again later- that no one has commented on is the key in my opinion... "that guy" HADN'T EVEN TRIED THE EFFIN' BEER!!! People are so quick to pass judgement and give advice on beers they haven't even tried. That just kills me. STFU, drink the beer, then discuss.
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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2012, 07:34:56 PM »
"that guy" HADN'T EVEN TRIED THE EFFIN' BEER!!! People are so quick to pass judgement and give advice on beers they haven't even tried. That just kills me. STFU, drink the beer, then discuss.

On this website, every day, there are at least a hundred people who give advice on a hundred beers they haven't, nor will ever drink. If you want to cut down the number of people who can provide commentary on beers to only those who have tried said beers, we might as well shut down the whole AHA forums.
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