hmm. At this point I almost feel like I'm doing something wrong because I never have trouble with 565/3724.
protein rest, keep the gravity reasonable, normal amount of O2, good pitch rate, pitch near 70 and let it warm to wherever it wants to go...always finishes sub 1.005. Started a 1.048 batch the day before I left for NHC. Came back two weeks later to 1.001 beer.
I don't even make the upper end of the style anymore as it always ends up well above the 5-7% alcohol range I enjoy.