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Offline Jimmy K

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Re: Fryer for boils
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2012, 09:36:09 pm »

Where did you hear that?

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Re: Fryer for boils
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 09:43:36 am »
Since I found out that Fermcap is supposed to be filtered out, I've cut way back on my use of it.  For instance, I've gone back to using a spray bottle of water to control the boil.  I"ll still use it when I have to, but I use as little as possible and avoid it if I can.

Where did you hear that?

Probrewer forum and data from one of the wholesalers who sells Fermcap.

" It is adsorbed onto the surface of the yeast, vessel walls and filter media. "

http://www.brewerssupplygroup.com/FoamControl.html
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Re: Fryer for boils
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2012, 02:43:52 pm »
I thought the site I found said that only Fermcap S must be filtered, Fermcap AT does not. No real distinction on your link.
 
I only use it in starters, but that makes me wonder. Good old paying attention works for the kettle.
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Re: Fryer for boils
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2012, 02:52:39 pm »
I thought the site I found said that only Fermcap S must be filtered, Fermcap AT does not. No real distinction on your link.
 
I only use it in starters, but that makes me wonder. Good old paying attention works for the kettle.

I had heard that also, so I bought some AT.  But I've come around to your way of thinking...I use a little for starters, but I'm back to using a spray bottle for the kettle.
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Re: Fryer for boils
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2012, 01:20:54 pm »
Fermcap also seems to be degraded when exposed to longer boils (90-120 min). I recently did a batch where I over sparge by alot (though the ph and gravity wee all still above the warning area [1.018 and ph was around 5.5]). I ended up with about 9-11g of liquid for a 5.5g batch. I ended up boiling for roughly 4 hrs and had to add 2 additions of fermcap, since the first stopped after 90-120 minute mark.

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Re: Fryer for boils
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2012, 02:29:41 pm »
The only thing I've used it for recently has been to keep my blow-off receptacle from foaming all over the place while I'm at work and crapping up my fermentation freezer.
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