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Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« on: October 11, 2016, 03:04:59 PM »
Just purchased a sack of Thomas Faucett Golden Promise and noticed a date on the side of the package. I always assumed that those dates were best by's, but this one was stamped March 4th, 2016. I can't imagine that I would be getting that old of a sack. Any thoughts?

Also just wanted to check what people list Golden Promise as in Brunwater?  I feel like Martin has said that a 5L is a good color to go with...

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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 03:32:51 PM »
I imagine the are production dates. My latest sack of fawcett is lacking all batch data. Looks like the printer was on the fritz the day mine was packed.

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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 05:42:50 PM »
Says 2.5 - 3 L on their website.

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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2016, 05:46:38 PM »
Wasn't it rahr two row that worked better with bru'n water at 5L
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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2016, 05:52:42 PM »
Wasn't it rahr two row that worked better with bru'n water at 5L


Yep
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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2016, 06:24:15 PM »
Wasn't it rahr two row that worked better with bru'n water at 5L


Yep

I wonder if this should be looked at again. Maybe it is inconsistent.  I have always made that adjustment (+3.0L) for Rahr Pale Ale and had predictable results using BrunWater. I am just finishing a sack of Rahr 2-Row and have made no adjustments with predictable results.

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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2016, 06:35:06 PM »
^ there is a difference between rahr pale and pale ale malts. While both are made of domestic 2-row, pale ale is darker.

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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2016, 06:42:00 PM »
Wasn't it rahr two row that worked better with bru'n water at 5L


Yep

I wonder if this should be looked at again. Maybe it is inconsistent.  I have always made that adjustment (+3.0L) for Rahr Pale Ale and had predictable results using BrunWater. I am just finishing a sack of Rahr 2-Row and have made no adjustments with predictable results.


Maybe, but I've only used Rahr 2 row (not their pale ale) and, at Martin's recommendation here, bumped the L up to 5L. Had great results every time.
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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 09:09:31 PM »
Wasn't it rahr two row that worked better with bru'n water at 5L


Yep

I wonder if this should be looked at again. Maybe it is inconsistent.  I have always made that adjustment (+3.0L) for Rahr Pale Ale and had predictable results using BrunWater. I am just finishing a sack of Rahr 2-Row and have made no adjustments with predictable results.


Maybe, but I've only used Rahr 2 row (not their pale ale) and, at Martin's recommendation here, bumped the L up to 5L. Had great results every time.
Ok, I just did some digging and Martin references Rahr "base malts" here. https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=14478.0 Apparentlywe are both correct. Still I have not had any issues with pH prediction using the specific lovibond rating from the malt analysis on the bag of 2-row pale I have now. Nor have I had any issues adding the 3L's of color to the sack of Rahr Pale Ale I am half way through. Just saying maybe this needs to be revisited.

Martin mentions his own misapplication of the correction on Rahr Pale Ale here. http://www.brews-bros.com/topic/88714-rahr-pale-ale-and-brunwater/?p=1687513

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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2016, 07:33:10 AM »
Wasn't it rahr two row that worked better with bru'n water at 5L


Yep

I wonder if this should be looked at again. Maybe it is inconsistent.  I have always made that adjustment (+3.0L) for Rahr Pale Ale and had predictable results using BrunWater. I am just finishing a sack of Rahr 2-Row and have made no adjustments with predictable results.


Maybe, but I've only used Rahr 2 row (not their pale ale) and, at Martin's recommendation here, bumped the L up to 5L. Had great results every time.
Ok, I just did some digging and Martin references Rahr "base malts" here. https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=14478.0 Apparentlywe are both correct. Still I have not had any issues with pH prediction using the specific lovibond rating from the malt analysis on the bag of 2-row pale I have now. Nor have I had any issues adding the 3L's of color to the sack of Rahr Pale Ale I am half way through. Just saying maybe this needs to be revisited.

Martin mentions his own misapplication of the correction on Rahr Pale Ale here. http://www.brews-bros.com/topic/88714-rahr-pale-ale-and-brunwater/?p=1687513



Yeah, probably could be revisited. I remember Martin saying that he felt the 2 row was (possibly even purposely made) more acidic than other 2 rows which, for pale beers at least, would reduce the amount of pH adjustment needed. Regardless, I really liked it as a domestic 2 row. As said, I've never used their pale ale malt though.
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Re: Thomas Faucett Golden Promise specs
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2016, 03:51:37 PM »
I also feel that he has indicated that Golden Promise also benefits from a 5L in Brunwater too. I could be totally wrong. Maybe he will add his 2 cents here.

I just looked back into my journal and see that in my last Irish Red with golden promise, I called it a 5L in brunwater and nailed my pH right at 5.4 (which I was shooting for). Now I am completely confused.