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efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« on: August 19, 2012, 11:33:52 PM »
Is my low brew house efficiency due to the Bazooka screen ?
Is a false bottom better for this purpose ?
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 04:55:55 AM »
Is my low brew house efficiency due to the Bazooka screen ?

Possibly. You can't know without a full set of measurements. Grist weight, strike volume, sparge volume, first and last runnings gravities, etc.

Is a false bottom better for this purpose ?

Only if you're fly sparging.
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2012, 08:05:50 AM »
yes I am fly sparging
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2012, 11:46:16 AM »
There is no mention of how large the mashing vessel is and the length of the screen.  If the vessel is much longer than the screen, then might have some effect.  But, I find that the most influential variable for efficiency is the length of time used for the runoff and sparging.  The longer the time, the higher the efficiency.  Go slow.
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2012, 12:06:25 PM »
You haven't described the geometry of your mash tun or your bazooka screen.  See John Palmer re proper manifold design for fly sparging http://www.howtobrew.com/appendices/appendixD-1.html

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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 02:29:11 PM »
I use a double bazooka screen (the T kind which is about 12 inches long) in a converted 15.5 gallon sanke keg and I consistently get 85% efficiency out of it. I fly sparge and usually take about 45 minutes to get 13 gallons in the kettle.
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 04:12:58 PM »
I use a braided hose probably 20 or so inches in circumference and get 83% fly sparing and 68% batch sparging. What efficiency are you getting? System?

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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 04:15:37 PM »
I use a braided hose probably 20 or so inches in circumference and get 83% fly sparing and 68% batch sparging. What efficiency are you getting? System?

Wow, that's a huge difference.  I got 86% on a batch sparge yesterday.  Wonder why you get such a difference.


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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 04:24:34 PM »
What color is your mash tun?
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 06:33:52 PM »
I use a braided hose probably 20 or so inches in circumference and get 83% fly sparing and 68% batch sparging. What efficiency are you getting? System?

Wow, that's a huge difference.  I got 86% on a batch sparge yesterday.  Wonder why you get such a difference

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I don't know either. I actually got 71% on Monday but I did some pre-boil calculations and decided to boil for 90 minutes to get it there. My out tube is pretty small 3/8"? I think. Could a slower b/c of constricted tube cause lower efficiency. Like I said, same system gets me 83% when I fly sparge for an hour.

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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2012, 10:07:36 PM »
Like I said, same system gets me 83% when I fly sparge for an hour.

What's your conversion efficiency? It sounds like you aren't finished at the end of the mash rest, and the long sparge is giving you extra time to get full conversion.
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 11:31:21 PM »
I use a keggle with a 12'' bazooka screen. There is no dead space.
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efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 04:36:53 AM »
I use a braided hose probably 20 or so inches in circumference and get 83% fly sparing and 68% batch sparging. What efficiency are you getting? System?

Wow, that's a huge difference.  I got 86% on a batch sparge yesterday.  Wonder why you get such a difference.


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Agree, that's a huge difference and doesn't jive with my experience at all. I get around 80% batch sparging using a braid in a stainless "keggle".
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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 08:44:55 AM »
Like I said, same system gets me 83% when I fly sparge for an hour.

What's your conversion efficiency? It sounds like you aren't finished at the end of the mash rest, and the long sparge is giving you extra time to get full conversion.

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Re: efficiency false bottom vs bazooka
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 12:58:08 PM »

That's a good thought, Sean.  I guess the hat didn't kill your brain after all!  ;)

If I'm not mistaken, I was sitting just to the right of Sean in that picture.  He was doing a fair job of killing brain cells at the time.
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