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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2012, 11:50:38 AM »
some funny stuff on their list of recent petitions.

long ways to go to get to 25K, but hey, the homebrew petition has 4.5 times as many supporters as the petition to allow women to go topless.  I would have guessed boobs would outpoll beer by 20-30%!   ;D

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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2012, 12:08:35 PM »
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2012, 12:27:29 PM »
Came across this petition on another site and wanted to come here to tell everyone to sign...

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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2012, 12:31:39 PM »
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2012, 06:44:14 AM »
sort of on this subject, I'm reading this interview with the guy Obama gave a homebrew beer to recently, and the following section is confusing me...

http://obamafoodorama.blogspot.com/2012/08/meet-brad-magerkurth-man-with-secrets.html

Magerkurth also said that the bottle cap--which carries no marking, such as a Presidential seal--is "bench capped."
How beer bottles are capped is important, to maintain flavor and keep the brew stable. Bench capping allows bottles to be re-used, because the bottle top can be twisted off. It's a more expensive proposition than using a hand capping tool.

"A bench capper is about four hundred bucks," Magerkurth said, implying that the President has a pricey brewing operation.


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$400?!  Is this just a confused/uninformed interviewer?  Or a guy who has supposedly homebrewed but never bought/used a bench capper?  I've got one; cost me a little over 40 bucks.  From the pic the homebrew in question certainly does not appear to be a twist-off.


anyway what am I missing?  And if there's some expensive homebrewing gadget I haven't bought yet I need to know.  ;D

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White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2012, 07:06:14 AM »
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2012, 07:12:03 AM »
sort of on this subject, I'm reading this interview with the guy Obama gave a homebrew beer to recently, and the following section is confusing me...

http://obamafoodorama.blogspot.com/2012/08/meet-brad-magerkurth-man-with-secrets.html

Magerkurth also said that the bottle cap--which carries no marking, such as a Presidential seal--is "bench capped."
How beer bottles are capped is important, to maintain flavor and keep the brew stable. Bench capping allows bottles to be re-used, because the bottle top can be twisted off. It's a more expensive proposition than using a hand capping tool.

"A bench capper is about four hundred bucks," Magerkurth said, implying that the President has a pricey brewing operation.


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$400?!  Is this just a confused/uninformed interviewer?  Or a guy who has supposedly homebrewed but never bought/used a bench capper?  I've got one; cost me a little over 40 bucks.  From the pic the homebrew in question certainly does not appear to be a twist-off.


anyway what am I missing?  And if there's some expensive homebrewing gadget I haven't bought yet I need to know.  ;D

thanks--
--Michael

I have a pneumatic capper (at my brewery) that probably cost at least $400. I don't think it is any better than a standard wing or bench capper, but it is a hell of a lot faster.
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2012, 03:13:29 PM »
jay carney came out and said that if the petition meets the required threshold, they will release the recipe that they planned on not releasing.

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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2012, 03:24:51 PM »
Even if he releases the "recipe," it won't prove anything. I'm going to start a petition for Obama to release the long-form recipe so we can finally put this matter to rest.
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2012, 03:28:01 PM »
#8674  Ooops, I'm #8675
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2012, 04:42:37 PM »
I believe bench cappers give you a tighter seal that let's in less oxygen. Bigger breweries worry about these details. Not bench vs wing capper but the force with which the cap is pressed on. Twist-off caps, for example, also let in more O2.

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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2012, 09:54:13 PM »
Get the word out. I think it's less about the recipe as it is an opportunity to show that we brewers have a strong voice.

I'm not sure if I can sign. I'm not a citizen, but I created an account. Let's see how far I get until I see a note that only citizens can sign.

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Signed it. I agree, this is a great opportunity to show that brewers are have a strong voice, and are an active in the political process. Also, it would be fun to try the presidential brew.
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2012, 12:13:20 AM »
I think once this is talked about on a BN show their guys will push it over 25k in a few hours . . .
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Re: White House Brew Recipe
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2012, 05:52:09 AM »
Plan B - Use the Freedom of Information Act

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/white-house-beer-recipe-obama_n_1818531.html
Sign the petition.

If you look into the FOIA, you find that the White House has exemptions.

The EOP entities exempt from the provisions of the FOIA are:
•Office of Administration
•White House Office
•Office of the Vice President
•Council of Economic Advisers
•National Security Council
•Office of Policy Development
•President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/ostp/library/compliance/foia

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