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Hop Schedule
« on: September 04, 2012, 09:49:53 AM »
In the past few weeks I have been having fun brewing a pumpkin and a holiday porter but I need an IPA back in my life. Looking to do…

1oz CTZ 90min
1oz Warrior 60min
1oz Amarillo 10min
1oz Simcoe 5 min
1oz Citra 0min

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 09:55:50 AM »
In the past few weeks I have been having fun brewing a pumpkin and a holiday porter but I need an IPA back in my life. Looking to do…

1oz CTZ 90min
1oz Warrior 60min
1oz Amarillo 10min
1oz Simcoe 5 min
1oz Citra 0min

Any thoughts or suggestions?

I would think about doing your last three additions at flame-out and hop stand for 10 minutes.  Also, I would reserve .5 oz from each of Amarillo, Simcoe and Citra for a 1.5 oz. dry hop.
Thank you BEER!

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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 09:58:35 AM »
Can you explain the reasoning behind using both a 60 and 90 min. addition?
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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2012, 11:30:13 AM »
I was trying to get the most out of the CTZ, but that’s also why I posted to see others opinions and gain some more knowledge. 

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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 11:58:12 AM »
In the past few weeks I have been having fun brewing a pumpkin and a holiday porter but I need an IPA back in my life. Looking to do…

1oz CTZ 90min
1oz Warrior 60min
1oz Amarillo 10min
1oz Simcoe 5 min
1oz Citra 0min

Any thoughts or suggestions?

I would think about doing your last three additions at flame-out and hop stand for 10 minutes.  Also, I would reserve .5 oz from each of Amarillo, Simcoe and Citra for a 1.5 oz. dry hop.
...and per Denny's point (if I'm interpreting correctly) you could just use the Warrior for First Wort Hop and a 90 minute boil then add the CTZ toward the end of the boil as a flavor charge.  IMHO that would give you "more" from your CTZ.
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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 12:02:48 PM »
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.and per Denny's point (if I'm interpreting correctly) you could just use the Warrior for First Wort Hop and a 90 minute boil then add the CTZ toward the end of the boil as a flavor charge.  IMHO that would give you "more" from your CTZ.

Thanks for the input.  When would you add them?

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.and per Denny's point (if I'm interpreting correctly) you could just use the Warrior for First Wort Hop and a 90 minute boil then add the CTZ toward the end of the boil as a flavor charge.  IMHO that would give you "more" from your CTZ.

Thanks for the input.  When would you add them?
If you do the flame out and dry hop additions with your Amarillo/Simcoe/Citra for aroma, I would add the CTZ at either 10 or 5 minutes remaining for flavor.
BTW- what size batch are we talking here?
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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 12:32:30 PM »
Makes sense, 5 Gallons

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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 12:44:24 PM »
I was trying to get the most out of the CTZ, but that’s also why I posted to see others opinions and gain some more knowledge.

There's so little increase in hop utilization between 60 and 90 min. that I consider it negligible.

Re: Pinski's advice....if you do that, it will leave you without a 60 min, addition.  although I FWH a majority of the beers I do, I still use a 60 min, addition for bitterness.  For me, I don't get enough "sharp" bitterness with FWH only, especially in an IPA.  Here's what I'd do...

1oz Warrior FWH
1oz CTZ 60min
1oz Amarillo 10min
1oz Simcoe 5 min
1oz Citra 0min

Be sure to recalculate the IBU fpr the recipe to be sure you're getting the right amount for your IPA.
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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 11:08:18 PM »
I've changed from a hop schedule that has intervals like 60, 30, 10, 5, 0 minutes to 60, 20, 8 minutes based on this chart:

http://brewjournal-dvg.blogspot.com/2011/01/hop-utilization.html

So far, I'm getting very good results on aroma and flavor for specific hops with the change, specifically for a style like IPA.   Saving the 0 min flame-out addition for dryhop.

That image is posted all over the internet, anyone know of it's roots?

Cheers.

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Re: Hop Schedule
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 06:34:27 AM »
That chart has been around for a time, and is good in concept but poor in practice. I have never seen where it originated, or back up references.

The flavor and aroma curves don't exactly fit what some say is best. I get great flavor and aroma from whirlpool additions, for example.
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