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Offline uisgue

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Dry hop-cigaring?
« on: September 06, 2012, 08:18:59 am »
At last years Christmas party I got a Centennial Hops Cigar which I really don't think I will ever smoke.  I was wondering about shredding it and dry-hopping a batch of something (suggestions?) with it.  Would this be an interesting flavor addition or would the tobacco just make it nasty? I don't know the ratio of hops to tobacco.  Could be hops mixed with tobacco in the filler or maybe just hops in a tobacco leaf cigar roll-up.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 08:25:06 am »
Have you ever chewed tobacco?  It's not something you want to be swallowing.

IMO, tobacco beer = nasty.

I'd rather smoke that cigar and sip a nice old ale, stout or dopplebock.  Or bourbon.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 08:43:02 am »
Yeah, I hear ya.  Wouldn't want to chew the tobacco.  But, then again, I wouldn't really want to chew the hops either.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 08:46:11 am »
Have you ever chewed tobacco?  It's not something you want to be swallowing.

IMO, tobacco beer = nasty.

I'd rather smoke that cigar and sip a nice old ale, stout or dopplebock.  Or bourbon.
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I can see a hint of tobacco aroma being a nice note in a substantial beer but no, I highly doubt you would find the flavor appealing in a beer...  and this is coming from someone that appreciates a nice stogie and still enjoys a little pinch between the cheek and gum from time to time.
I think the dry-'spanish cedar' cigar box idea that was going around a couple weeks ago sounds like a much better approach.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 09:11:52 am by Pinski »
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 08:49:15 am »
Nicotine is very toxic stuff. While I enjoy the taste and aroma of a fine cigar, I would not recommend ever using tobacco in any sort of food product.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 09:14:42 am »
throw it away
get a good cigar
get a good beer
sit on deck by fire
enjoy
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 09:37:03 am »
Nicotine is very toxic stuff. While I enjoy the taste and aroma of a fine cigar, I would not recommend ever using tobacco in any sort of food product.

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Don't do it, Doug.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 10:15:30 am »
I ordered for Easter a sampler of Artisan du Chocolat's bars. One of them included the Heston Blumenthal-inspired Tobacco chocolate. http://artisanduchocolat.com/tobacco-dark-bar.html

It was pretty tasty, actually. In a beer it might work. But don't just put the tobacco itself in there.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 10:24:40 am »
You could chew tobacco and make a chicha with the tobacco spit!!! :D

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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2012, 10:27:48 am »
Nicotine is very toxic stuff. While I enjoy the taste and aroma of a fine cigar, I would not recommend ever using tobacco in any sort of food product.

THIS^^^

Don't do it, Doug.

just to get the sensation of how rough this can be. go try some niacin which is a nicotinic acid.  (prescription is niaspan) but there is otc.  very poorly tolerated medicine.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2012, 10:38:16 am »
You could chew tobacco and make a chicha with the tobacco spit!!! :D

I think I just about lost my lunch.

Being a cigar aficionado, I have to say that I love a great cigar but I don't think it belongs in a beer.  I suggest smoking good cigars and drinking good craft beer. They should be mutually exclusive as products but can be enjoyed together, only smoke the cigar and drink the beer. Just my opinion.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2012, 10:41:57 am »
As I think about this, I've read lots of wine reviews that say "flavors of tobacco" along with other things like leather that you would never actually put in the wine.

Perhaps the flavors come from the oak?  There's probably ways to get a similar flavor without actually adding tobacco.

As far as tobacco spit, I've seen people drink it by mistake... nasty.  Do not spit your dip into an empty beer bottle.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2012, 10:57:43 am »
As I think about this, I've read lots of wine reviews that say "flavors of tobacco" along with other things like leather that you would never actually put in the wine.

Perhaps the flavors come from the oak?  There's probably ways to get a similar flavor without actually adding tobacco.

Oak, certain hops, and certain yeasts (saisons and Brett come to mind) can potentially give some of that leathery/tobacco aroma & flavor. I also pick up tobacco notes from many of the best dark chocolates. While none of these will necessarily leave you with a big tobacco flavor, they can all contribute a subtle hint.
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2012, 09:03:11 pm »
Okay, I'm convinced.  It was just a passing thought.  Actually, it was something I dreamt last night. Maybe it was a nightmare. ???
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Re: Dry hop-cigaring?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2012, 07:13:32 am »
On the other hand, using the wood shavings from a cigar box made of Spanish Cedar might be a good choice...