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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 09:56:21 AM »
Why is that? No Wifi?

I'm asking b/c the cloud makes that recipe sharing access easier since it deals with the sync issues. With all the excitement about the cloud, it seems that software developers may not be interested in much off-line support.

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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 10:48:18 AM »
I just looked up the cloud prices. There's no way I'll be upgrading anytime soon. I can't justify spending $28 for beersmith2, paying about $2-3 a month for cloud then paying $4 for the app for my android. I highly doubt it will make my beer any better and I've never been in a situation where I absolutely needed a recipe I made last month.
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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 12:47:41 PM »
I just looked up the cloud prices. There's no way I'll be upgrading anytime soon. I can't justify spending $28 for beersmith2, paying about $2-3 a month for cloud then paying $4 for the app for my android. I highly doubt it will make my beer any better and I've never been in a situation where I absolutely needed a recipe I made last month.

Agreed... and if you do find yourself in that situation, it's much easier to put your Beersmith directory into your free Dropbox folder, then open it with the free BrewAide app.

Honestly, I'd have no problem with the $4 app if it could just read the recipe folders from Dropbox like BrewAide does.

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Re: Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 03:02:07 PM »
I just looked up the cloud prices. There's no way I'll be upgrading anytime soon. I can't justify spending $28 for beersmith2, paying about $2-3 a month for cloud then paying $4 for the app for my android. I highly doubt it will make my beer any better and I've never been in a situation where I absolutely needed a recipe I made last month.

Agreed... and if you do find yourself in that situation, it's much easier to put your Beersmith directory into your free Dropbox folder, then open it with the free BrewAide app.

Honestly, I'd have no problem with the $4 app if it could just read the recipe folders from Dropbox like BrewAide does.
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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 11:17:09 PM »
My wifi is intermittent when I'm brewing, I'm too far from the wireless modem.  I'm not interested in cloud based "solutions".
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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2012, 06:00:49 AM »
I was excited for this release. But the app won't open bsmx files. It only gets it's recipes from the cloud... Looks a bit greedy as well. Pay for the computer software. Pay for upgraded space on the cloud. Pay $4 to pull that data from the cloud and read it on your phone...
Cloud space is free for the first 10 recipes. Can't say I think 'greedy' is the right word for someone who's made a product to make your hobby easier. Cloud space and programming both cost Brad time and money.

Currently Brewaide is the only app I've found to open bsmx files. The interface isn't the best...
But it was free, so there you go.
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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2012, 06:09:49 AM »
I just looked up the cloud prices. There's no way I'll be upgrading anytime soon. I can't justify spending $28 for beersmith2, paying about $2-3 a month for cloud then paying $4 for the app for my android. I highly doubt it will make my beer any better and I've never been in a situation where I absolutely needed a recipe I made last month.

Agreed... and if you do find yourself in that situation, it's much easier to put your Beersmith directory into your free Dropbox folder, then open it with the free BrewAide app.

Honestly, I'd have no problem with the $4 app if it could just read the recipe folders from Dropbox like BrewAide does.
There is a 'full mobile app' coming out later, which might have more functionality. Also, you can save your 10 free cloud recipes directly on your phone. Then you can delete them from the cloud, upload 10 more, rinse and repeat.
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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2012, 10:24:08 AM »
I just looked up the cloud prices. There's no way I'll be upgrading anytime soon. I can't justify spending $28 for beersmith2, paying about $2-3 a month for cloud then paying $4 for the app for my android. I highly doubt it will make my beer any better and I've never been in a situation where I absolutely needed a recipe I made last month.

Agreed... and if you do find yourself in that situation, it's much easier to put your Beersmith directory into your free Dropbox folder, then open it with the free BrewAide app.

Honestly, I'd have no problem with the $4 app if it could just read the recipe folders from Dropbox like BrewAide does.
There is a 'full mobile app' coming out later, which might have more functionality. Also, you can save your 10 free cloud recipes directly on your phone. Then you can delete them from the cloud, upload 10 more, rinse and repeat.

Without being able to read all my recipe and inventory files from a service like Dropbox, a 'full mobile app' won't offer any of the extra functionality I'd be looking for (creating a shopping list when I'm standing in the homebrew shop would be awesome, for example).  I am happy to just read all of my recipe file from Dropbox now with the "other free app" rather than paying for an app that makes me guess which 10 recipes I need to keep in the BeerSmith cloud.

I understand why he did it the way he did.  It's another revenue stream for him when people want to store more than 10 recipes.  I'm a software guy, so I get the business side of his decision.  Software as a service is more lucrative than one-time software purchases, and the industry is heading that way whether I like it or not.  Unfortunately, it's not the best solution for me as a consumer.

All that said, I love the full BeerSmith application.  I'm looking forward to seeing what he does with the mobile app and the cloud in the future.  At some point, it may make sense to me.

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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2012, 06:13:42 PM »
Did somebody said ProMash?
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New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2012, 06:34:17 PM »
Did somebody said ProMash?

Allow me.....

PROMASH!!!!!


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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2012, 12:54:55 PM »
Why is that? No Wifi?

I'm asking b/c the cloud makes that recipe sharing access easier since it deals with the sync issues. With all the excitement about the cloud, it seems that software developers may not be interested in much off-line support.

Kai

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Yep.  I brew in a detached garage and it's to far from the house to get a wifi connection.  I have the same issue with a lot of other software.  My internet connection is even too slow to stream video to my TV.  There are 2 sides to living in the middle of nowhere!
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Re: New Beersmith app for phones & tablets
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2013, 02:26:30 PM »
It's almost ready and it's really nice being able to create and edit recipes on your phone/tablet

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