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Offline Jason

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2020, 09:48:56 pm »
I find Jarrylo to be a great hop for Kolsch. Just high enough AAU for bittering and a nice noble-ish tone for the late addition.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2020, 12:43:34 pm »
i started using spalt a long time ago as i read altbier used only spalts for when i made an altbier. i found they hit the spot, and i've been using them ever since. i had a good experience with tettnang in a pale lager once. saaz is great.

spalt is very indistinct in a way, really just kind of hides and is mellow but provides good bitterness, not too spicy/herby i find.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2020, 10:27:45 pm »

 :D. The blend aucessfully covered up what I dislike about Fuggles.

What, you don't like the black truffle/sweaty armpit aroma of fuggles? Seriously, I like Styrian Goldings fine, but UK or US-grown fuggles are the literal worst.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2020, 09:48:11 pm »
Lol think I already said here at some point, but yup. I have never had a good experience with fuggles, can't remember if they were UK or US. I won't even risk using them again.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2020, 07:25:51 pm »
I'm about to have the definitive answer about why to use Hallertau: Tomorrow I'm brewing (yet another) APA using 50% Golden Promise, 34% Rye and 16% base malt. This is a recipe I have made many times with many variations (and up to 50% rye with no problems), only this time I'm going to use 100g (3 oz and a bit) of Hallertau for bittering. If there is a significant effect from the phenols I'm sure that it will show up in this brew!

I'll post an update in a couple of weeks when I get it in the glass.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2020, 08:43:38 am »
I'm about to have the definitive answer about why to use Hallertau: Tomorrow I'm brewing (yet another) APA using 50% Golden Promise, 34% Rye and 16% base malt. This is a recipe I have made many times with many variations (and up to 50% rye with no problems), only this time I'm going to use 100g (3 oz and a bit) of Hallertau for bittering. If there is a significant effect from the phenols I'm sure that it will show up in this brew!

I'll post an update in a couple of weeks when I get it in the glass.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2020, 04:00:21 pm »
This is an interesting topic and I didn't see it when it was new.  I agree that using a hop at the start of the boil doesn't mean that ALL of its character is gone.  I also make a lot of beers where there is a hop addition at the start of the boil and that's it.  When I do that, I typically use something noble as opposed to Magnum.  Would I be able to tell the difference between the two?  Not sure.  I tend to use Magnum when I know that more hops will be added later... which are usually noble.
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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2020, 06:02:18 am »
Less relevant for a mild beer like kolsh, but I'll note that beta acid content is a consideration for aged beers (while alpha acids are busy degrading out of bittertown, the betas begin to better bitter the brew).

So I think the summary thus far is that hops is more than AA and oils, and a serious brewer should get educated on the other components. And that we all want to know whether the princess noticed the pea :P.

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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2022, 06:47:23 pm »
I’m with Major on this. I’m late to the party, but I’ll still chime in. Bitter with Magnum and finish with Crystal. I did one bittered with Perle and finished with Spalt that I liked. Generally the bitter can change. I almost always finish with Crystal @ 10min. Always have used Giga021 for my yeast. Guess I’ll have to keep that going since they are no longer.
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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2024, 09:51:15 am »
Although it continues to be a work in progress, I use Perle to bitter and Tettenang and Mittlefruh for flavor and aroma in my Kolsch.  I made this beer a couple months ago and it came out quite tasty.  Might not change the hop schedule in this beer but I have used Magnum in other beers and like it because it has a relatively neutral character and high enough AAU's that you don't need much for bittering.  Although I like what Mittlefruh adds to the beer, the idea of using only Hallertauer is a good one.
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Re: Kolsh: Why use a particular hop?
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2024, 06:28:20 am »
I've used the Edelweiss hop blend in my last few kolsch recipes, and it turns out amazing. Lots of nice noble hop notes, and I get a gorgeous floral component in the taste and aroma that meshes well with typical kolsch yeast strains. In fact, I brewed this recipe again yesterday -- 1 oz. early in the boil, 1 oz. late in the boil, to hit ~24 IBU.
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