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Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« on: September 27, 2012, 01:17:45 pm »
I usually toss em in after fermentation is about done, but how much, and how long?
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2012, 01:19:57 pm »
Pellets are much easier to work with imo. Especially in carboys. Its hard stuffing leaf hops in.  They also drop out nicely without need for a hopsack.  I toss mine straight into primary for 5-7 days. 3 oz per 5 gallons Id say is the max before things get a little grassy/vegetal.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2012, 01:23:29 pm »
I like pellet hops myself. They settle out pretty nicely :)
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2012, 01:25:42 pm »
Just read the thread in dry hopping below...
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2012, 01:30:03 pm »
It also depends on the recipe.  The Pliny recipe has dry hops in it from day 5 to day 14.  I toss them in and give the carboy a gentle swirl every other day just to get them back in suspension.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2012, 02:28:04 pm »
I remember reading something from a major brewery (maybe NB?) about how extraction of volatile compounds peaks within 24 hours when dry-hopping. Not sure how applicable that is with homebrew-sized batches, but it makes me wonder if I've been dry-hopping for too many days.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2012, 02:35:19 pm »
I remember reading something from a major brewery (maybe NB?) about how extraction of volatile compounds peaks within 24 hours when dry-hopping. Not sure how applicable that is with homebrew-sized batches, but it makes me wonder if I've been dry-hopping for too many days.

I'm usually never on a charge of dryhops for more than a week.

I'll dry hop at the end of primary and then in the keg. More hops and less contact time isn't exactly efficient, but it provides a more intense hop presence without grassy, dirty, vegetal off flavors (that I can detect, anyway).
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2012, 02:37:28 pm »
I've been experimenting with sulfites to minimize oxidation, especially when dry-hopping. I haven't really decided how useful it is for beer yet. There's nothing I hate more than cardboard hops.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2012, 02:39:29 pm »
I dry hop with whole hops.  I brew my Pale Ales, IPA's in a bucket and add the dry hops in mesh bags weighted with the glass aquarium "rocks."  When I use pellet hops, the float on top and NEVER settle to the bottom.  I'd love to know why pellets settle out for everyone else.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2012, 02:43:45 pm »
I dry hop with whole hops.  I brew my Pale Ales, IPA's in a bucket and add the dry hops in mesh bags weighted with the glass aquarium "rocks."  When I use pellet hops, the float on top and NEVER settle to the bottom.  I'd love to know why pellets settle out for everyone else.

Probably 1/3 of my hop pellets sink, the other 2/3 float on top, if left alone.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2012, 02:51:13 pm »
I dry hop with whole hops.  I brew my Pale Ales, IPA's in a bucket and add the dry hops in mesh bags weighted with the glass aquarium "rocks."  When I use pellet hops, the float on top and NEVER settle to the bottom.  I'd love to know why pellets settle out for everyone else.

Probably 1/3 of my hop pellets sink, the other 2/3 float on top, if left alone.


Now, I don't know much about quantum physics but... ( ;) that's for you nateo)

I think it's got something to do with how much air is trapped betwixt the bracts of the whole cones vs the pellets.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 02:56:18 pm »
Now, I don't know much about quantum physics but... ( ;) that's for you nateo)

I think it's got something to do with how much air is trapped betwixt the bracts of the whole cones vs the pellets.

We're all climbing our own "Mount Stupids." I'm still at the bottom of mine re:why some of my hops float and some don't. I know it's something to do with buoyancy, but beyond knowing what "buoyancy" means I've got nothing. I think I can rule out cosmic rays and ether as possible contributing factors, but beyond that I'm clueless.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2012, 02:57:01 pm »
I dry hopped an ESB for 12days with a good outcome, actually not  as floral/aroma as i expected, i also dry an IPA for 16days (simply no time to bottle on both occasions) the IPA turned out well maybe a tad to dank/vegetal but still very drinkable. both times with pellets very easy.
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 02:59:09 pm »
I dry hopped an ESB for 12days with a good outcome, actually not  as floral/aroma as i expected, i also dry an IPA for 16days (simply no time to bottle on both occasions) the IPA turned out well maybe a tad to dank/vegetal but still very drinkable. both times with pellets very easy.

What kind of hops did you use? I've let some Willammette go for a long time and wasn't really happy with it, while I let one of the C's (Chinook?) go for a long time and it turned out pretty well. So maybe variety has an effect?
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Re: Pellets or whole for dry hopping?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 05:40:41 pm »
I dry hopped an ESB for 12days with a good outcome, actually not  as floral/aroma as i expected, i also dry an IPA for 16days (simply no time to bottle on both occasions) the IPA turned out well maybe a tad to dank/vegetal but still very drinkable. both times with pellets very easy.

What kind of hops did you use? I've let some Willammette go for a long time and wasn't really happy with it, while I let one of the C's (Chinook?) go for a long time and it turned out pretty well. So maybe variety has an effect?

for the IPA the hops were Amarillo, Citra, Chinook, and Centennial the aroma is great, but heavy grapefruit and dank smell/taste
for the ESB the hops were fuggles and galena

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