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Staining
« on: October 17, 2012, 08:00:30 AM »
This is a dumb question but here goes...

I am almost finished building the bench/stand for my new electric brewing system and am at the staining stage.

Should I stain everything, including the undercarriage, or should I just stain what the eyes can see? 

Projects I have done in the past did not really require (inside of planters, dog feeders, etc) so I am not quite sure what the protocol is.

Obviously I know it wouldn't hurt anything, but I'd hate to spend all the effort for no reason.
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Re: Staining
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 08:04:23 AM »
Does the staining have a utilitarian purpose? is it intended to water proof the wood? If no then... well I was going to say I wouldn't bother but I am just a bit OCD so probably I would... several coats... until it was perfect and you couldn't see the brush strokes... and then I would rent a sprayer and do it again. but that's just me. ;D
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Re: Staining
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 08:06:31 AM »
I'd stain everything visible or not but that's just me.
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Re: Staining
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 08:08:05 AM »
On most of my wood projects I only stain what people will see. 

As Mort said it is also determined by what the finish is intended to do.  If I want the wood completely sealed I finish every surface the same way (i.e. stain+varnish or whatever the top coat is).  If it is only to make it pretty I just do what people can see.  It doesn't hurt to let the wood breathe.

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Re: Staining
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 08:25:44 AM »
yeah - doing stain/poly to protect against inevitable spills and also to make it look nice as well, although after 4 steps of sanding, it looks pretty freaking sweet with bare wood :)
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Re: Staining
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 08:41:31 AM »
yeah - doing stain/poly to protect against inevitable spills and also to make it look nice as well, although after 4 steps of sanding, it looks pretty freaking sweet with bare wood :)

you could wax it with carnuba or something and maintain that nice bare wood look with some water proofing as well. or just seal it with varnish of some sort.
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Re: Staining
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 08:44:19 AM »
yeah - doing stain/poly to protect against inevitable spills and also to make it look nice as well, although after 4 steps of sanding, it looks pretty freaking sweet with bare wood :)

you could wax it with carnuba or something and maintain that nice bare wood look with some water proofing as well. or just seal it with varnish of some sort.

hmmm.. maybe I will just varnish it...

shall i try and post a pic tonight and see if I can get some opinions?
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Re: Staining
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 08:47:31 AM »
Yes!
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Re: Staining
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 09:15:42 AM »
Personally, I wouldn't finish anything that can't be seen.  Staining is really only for aesthetics.

Varnish/poly on the underside wouldn't really serve a purpose, especially since I doubt you'll be floating it.

Stain and finish only what is visible.  Less work, same result.

For stains, I wipe it on with a rag.  Better coverage, no brush strokes.
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Re: Staining
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 12:40:11 PM »
I'd go with natural stains only.  Ain't nothing finer than that natural patina* that forms on a surface over the years from spilled barley & hops.   

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Re: Staining
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 01:27:42 PM »
just get out the vegetable oil, pour it on top in a glob, then rub it all over.  but hey thats just me
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Re: Staining
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 02:39:34 PM »
Make your own stain and use that. Enviro friendy and you can say "I built that, even the stain".
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Re: Staining
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 05:16:29 PM »
here are some pics - sorry the lighting in my garage no bueno.





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Re: Staining
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 05:46:42 PM »
Actually you should finish all sides the same whether you can see it or not. Wood is always taking on or releasing moisture depending on its surroundings. If only one side is sealed it will do this unevenly and result in warping and cracking.
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Re: Staining
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 04:30:13 AM »
If it will be stored outside, I would either finish the whole thing or just go with oil and no sealer.  You will need to reapply the oil every 6 months for a couple of years.  Once the wood is saturated you can cut back to "apply as needed".  Moisture changes will mess with light woods more than heavy ones.

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