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Offline davidgzach

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Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« on: October 18, 2012, 08:06:46 am »
I'm trying to clone this and have seen a lot of different recipes.  Some with Brown Malt, some without, some with toasted oats some not.  I thought I would put it out here and see what the forum thought.  Anyone have a good recipe?

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 11:56:34 am »
No recipe here Dave, but I'd like to see some ideas as well.  It's pretty tasty brew.
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 12:13:07 pm »
Hey Red!  Long time no talk....

Here's what I have so far:

8# Marris Otter
7oz Brown Malt
4oz Crystal 60
4oz Toasted Flaked Oats
3.5oz Chocolate Malt
1.25oz EKG at 60
.5oz Fuggles at 60
.5 Fuggles at 15
Either using Wyeast ESB or Irish Ale

Efficiency:  80%
16 SRM which lines up with Daniels "Designing Great Beers"
32.7 IBU-Designing GB Says 34 IBU
OG-1.049
FG-1.013

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 10:32:34 am »
Looks good!  I would go with the ESB yeast.  It gives a maltier profile.
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 10:40:57 am »
Looks good!  I would go with the ESB yeast.  It gives a maltier profile.

Agreed.  My first choice too!

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 11:46:24 am »
Looks good!  I would go with the ESB yeast.  It gives a maltier profile.

Agreed.  My first choice too!

Dave

Dave - not sure when you plan to make this, but the Yorkshire Square (Sam Smith yeast) is going to be released again in the next few weeks:

http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/2012_Platinum_Strain_Series_Release.pdf

FWIW - I like the recipe you have put together.

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 11:50:51 am »
Paul,

That's the Sam Smith yeast, right?  Oh man, thanks for letting me know!

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 11:55:33 am »
Paul,

That's the Sam Smith yeast, right?  Oh man, thanks for letting me know!

Dave

I've never seen it absolutely declared as such, but I think its a good bet that it is.
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 12:37:15 pm »
Is wy1469 close to the whitelabs yeast or a different animal?
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 12:41:56 pm »
HMMM.  Mr.Malty says Timothy Taylor for 1469.  I hope WL is Sammy.  I'll do a little investigating.

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 12:50:30 pm »
I only ask because of location being wy1469 being west yorkshire and when you read wyeast discription it sounds like it could work well. Also Sam Smiths being in Yorkshire. But might have no relavence at all.
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 12:55:05 pm »
I only ask because of location being wy1469 being west yorkshire and when you read wyeast discription it sounds like it could work well. Also Sam Smiths being in Yorkshire. But might have no relavence at all.

yes but Timothy Taylor is in West Yorkshire whereas Samuel Smith is in North Yorkshire  ;)
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 01:03:06 pm »
I only ask because of location being wy1469 being west yorkshire and when you read wyeast discription it sounds like it could work well. Also Sam Smiths being in Yorkshire. But might have no relavence at all.

yes but Timothy Taylor is in West Yorkshire whereas Samuel Smith is in North Yorkshire  ;)

When 1469 came out it was said to be from a brewery in Keighley in West Yorkshire, and that is where Timothy Taylor is.
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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2013, 06:42:18 am »
To report back on this, I tapped it yesterday with my buddy.  It was nothing short of amazing!  The combination of the WLP037 and toasted oats gave it a pronounced but not overpowering nutty flavor.  The brown malt provided some toffee, the chocolate some coffee which blended great with the caramel malt.  Here was the final recipe for 10G.  I would highly recommend it, but I think you have to use the 037.....

17# Marris Otter
1# Brown Malt
9 oz crystal 60
9 oz toasted oats (baked 60 mins at 350F)
7 oz chocolate malt
2.5 oz EKG at 60
1 oz Fuggles at 60
1 oz Fuggles at 15
70 minute mash at 156
OG-1.050
FG-1.012
ABV-5.02%

If you brew it, please report back on your thoughts.

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Re: Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 05:41:00 pm »
i may try this as i love sam smiths beer
what is the ferment temp?