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First lager!!
« on: November 27, 2012, 01:34:41 PM »
Any ideas on what a good first lager would be? Maybe thinking helles or bock or maybe Oktoberfest.

Any tips would be highly appreciated. I also should add I have a temperature controlled vessel. 

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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 01:36:28 PM »
I vote Munich Dunkel!
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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 01:58:20 PM »
Yummmmm

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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 01:59:35 PM »
i would also vote for a dunkel.  very forgiving. no big deal if it fades into a schwarzbier.  loaded with flavor.  also nice headed in to the winter, be ready for first of march.  then follow this up with a good dopplebock for easter.
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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 02:04:47 PM »
My first lager ( last January ) was a Munich Helles and I got a silver at NHC.  Your results may vary (i.e. Gold :) ).

Temp control, big yeast pitch, O2, and time/patience.  I also use a method that I heard from Jamil Zainasheff about letting the wort sit overnight at fermentation temp, transferring to another vessel, hitting it with O2 and pitch the yeast.  I was amazed at how much break material formed just overnight in the first carboy.  It is now a method I use with all my lagers.  I pitch cold ( 44 F ) and let it free rise to 50 F and hold it there. 

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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2012, 02:12:35 PM »
Schwarzbier

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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2012, 02:12:52 PM »
My first lager ( last January ) was a Munich Helles and I got a silver at NHC.  Your results may vary (i.e. Gold :) ).

Temp control, big yeast pitch, O2, and time/patience.  I also use a method that I heard from Jamil Zainasheff about letting the wort sit overnight at fermentation temp, transferring to another vessel, hitting it with O2 and pitch the yeast.  I was amazed at how much break material formed just overnight in the first carboy.  It is now a method I use with all my lagers.  I pitch cold ( 44 F ) and let it free rise to 50 F and hold it there. 

Good luck!

That is pretty standard for the German brewers. Maybe Kai can say if they all do it. Might be something to try.

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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 02:31:27 PM »
My first lager was a Schwarzbier, brewed on Black Friday 2011.  The last bottle was consumed last week, Black Friday 2012.
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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 02:32:06 PM »
Sounds fun!! I'll try that method!!

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First lager!!
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2012, 03:56:00 PM »
for a standard 1.050ish lager the slurry from a gallon starter would not be too big! You will have the best results following the advice above, chill down to ~44-46, aerate big and pitch. Let it settle out ~48-50.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2012, 04:16:23 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. Feel like I'm really gaining some valuable knowledge

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2012, 04:50:22 PM »
Thanks for all the advice. Feel like I'm really gaining some valuable knowledge
well, knowledge any way 8)
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2012, 07:50:48 PM »
Big +1 to jamils method.  Made my first lager (ok fest) and it turned out GREAT.  Clean and malty. 
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Re: First lager!!
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2012, 07:53:03 PM »
So you let it settle overnight and then just rack to primary and ferment?

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2012, 05:59:43 AM »
Big +1 to jamils method.  Made my first lager (ok fest) and it turned out GREAT.  Clean and malty.

Not necessarily JZ's method. This is standard lager practice.
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