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bottling small amount from full batch
« on: December 11, 2012, 02:46:05 PM »
What is the best way to only bottle a six pack or so from a full batch? I am taking the batch to my friends to keg for a New Year's party but want some for myself in order to get good tasting notes, etc.

I am thinking about transferring the full batch to the bottling bucket and adding priming sugar as normal then bottling enough to get the remaining volume to 5 gallons. I will have to clean and sanitize the fermenting bucket then transfer back to it for transportation. I don't have a lid for the bottling bucket... The 5 gallons will be transferred to keg and conditioned in a fridge so I don't think the priming sugar will affect much. Is this a bad idea? I think it will be easier than measuring an amount of priming sugar for such a small amount of beer. I could see having difficulty with the final product's carb.

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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2012, 02:59:36 PM »
Coopers carb drops work pretty well for me. For 1-gallon batches I don't generally use a bottling bucket. I just attach my bottling wand to my autosiphon and bottle straight from the fermenter, then add one carb drop to each bottle.

If your sanitation is good, then you could do this to bottle a few right from your fermenter without having to transfer a whole batch to the bottling bucket.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 03:12:57 PM »
That is a great idea that I had not considered. I will see if I can track some down

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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 03:48:16 PM »
I have heard of inconsistent results with Coopers drops, but have always had good luck with Muntons.  Four of these aspirin-sized pills in a 12 ounce bottle has worked for me.
Of course if you have kegging equipment you could always force carbonate some in a 2-liter plastic bottle.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 04:00:03 PM »
I've found the Munton's to leave weird white plasticy solid particles in my beer.  Supposedly they corrected this but not in my experience.

I've had good luck with the Coopers.  I've also had inconsistencies.  The inconsistencies may have actually been with Brewer's Best or some other brand.

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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 04:22:32 PM »
Thanks guys. Not sure if I will have time to get any by Thursday night so I may have to go with my original plan.

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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2012, 04:42:17 PM »
You could also prime the bottles individually with priming sugar if you have the ability to measure it accurately.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2012, 04:45:57 PM »
Or bring a growler to your friends and pull a growler full after it is forced carbed but before it is all gone.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2012, 05:21:24 PM »
All good ideas. I can only measure down to whole grams so I am not sure if that would be accurate enough. It looks like it would be about 2.21 g of table sugar per bottle according to what I normally do. I could do 2 g per bottle and just accept that it will be a little off.

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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2012, 05:58:45 PM »
All good ideas. I can only measure down to whole grams so I am not sure if that would be accurate enough. It looks like it would be about 2.21 g of table sugar per bottle according to what I normally do. I could do 2 g per bottle and just accept that it will be a little off.

Here's an old pharmacy trick. Weigh out the full amount needed for the entire batch. Spread it out into an even rectangle, then use a ruler to divide that rectangle into even sections for each beer you're bottling. This should help boost your accuracy a bit.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 07:51:20 PM »
You could put it all in a bottling bucket, add priming sugar, bottle a few and drain the rest into the keg. Let the bottled and kegged beer condition. Good to go.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2012, 09:41:44 PM »
You could put it all in a bottling bucket, add priming sugar, bottle a few and drain the rest into the keg. Let the bottled and kegged beer condition. Good to go.

That was kind of my original idea. The main thing is I want to get the bottling over with before I go over there due to a time crunch. In this instance I would have to transfer back to a cleaned and sanitized fermentation bucket for transportation since I somehow lost the lid for the bottling bucket.

I think I may have talked myself into this option even though it is probably more complicted than necessary. I think this makes sense due mainly to timing.

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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2012, 11:34:36 PM »
You could put it all in a bottling bucket, add priming sugar, bottle a few and drain the rest into the keg. Let the bottled and kegged beer condition. Good to go.

That was kind of my original idea. The main thing is I want to get the bottling over with before I go over there due to a time crunch. In this instance I would have to transfer back to a cleaned and sanitized fermentation bucket for transportation since I somehow lost the lid for the bottling bucket.

I think I may have talked myself into this option even though it is probably more complicted than necessary. I think this makes sense due mainly to timing.

Okay, here is a compromise that I think will work alot better. Get the keg from your friend, transfer the whole amount of beer into the keg with the priming sugar and bottle the uncarbed beer from the keg. just force it out with minimal co2. then let the keg and the bottles condition.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2012, 07:04:40 AM »
You could put it all in a bottling bucket, add priming sugar, bottle a few and drain the rest into the keg. Let the bottled and kegged beer condition. Good to go.

That was kind of my original idea. The main thing is I want to get the bottling over with before I go over there due to a time crunch. In this instance I would have to transfer back to a cleaned and sanitized fermentation bucket for transportation since I somehow lost the lid for the bottling bucket.

I think I may have talked myself into this option even though it is probably more complicted than necessary. I think this makes sense due mainly to timing.

Okay, here is a compromise that I think will work alot better. Get the keg from your friend, transfer the whole amount of beer into the keg with the priming sugar and bottle the uncarbed beer from the keg. just force it out with minimal co2. then let the keg and the bottles condition.
That's a pretty good idea, I like that.
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Re: bottling small amount from full batch
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2012, 07:16:17 AM »
I'm surprised nobody has thrown out the idea of force carbing the entire keg, then just bottling from it. You can do it as simply as a bottling wand stuffed into a picnic tap with the springy bit removed. I have a beer gun, but for 6 bottles or so its not worth breaking it out. I do this all the time.

Advantages are clearer beer in the bottles (no sediment), you know the carb level, and it's faster.