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Sea World; Killer Whale
« on: February 26, 2010, 05:48:25 AM »
Its been all over the news since yesterday (when I first saw it anyway) about the trainer that was killed by one of the killer whales.  I don't get it, what are they waiting for?  If it was a dog, it would be put to sleep, if it was a bull it would be put down.  I suppose people are concerned about the whale, its not a domestic animal so it never should have been put into a fish aquarium for people to watch in the first place.  Its learned a behavior and its not good (three incidents now)... it can never be released, they should put it to sleep... and hopefully learn from it.  If people want to see a wild creature, go into the wild to see it... or watch a flick about them. 

Think about RabidDingo's post with the list of rules... objects that choke children and wearing seat belts etc... what are people thinking when they do the things they do?  Have you ever seen how a large cat observes its prey... their focus is INTENSE.... take your kids to a zoo and see what the big cats are focusing on... keep your children close.   People are strange... they speak with forked tongues... or they just make rules for other people.

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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2010, 05:51:46 AM »
Well, I suspect the reason they don't put the whale down may have something to do with $$$$.
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2010, 06:06:04 AM »
I'm sure you're right Keith.  That doesn't make it right though does it?  Having money or worth seems to be able to make it right to break a lot of rules doesn't it.  Oh well, common sense is the best rule and thats the rule I would follow, it would've been cut into steaks by now if it were mine, or at the very least a large hole would have been dug.

Once could be an accident.
Twice might be a fluke.
Three times... its a trend... I believe this whale is a serial killer.  Its time (overdue) for a fish fry.  jmo...
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2010, 06:34:04 AM »
Killer whales
The first word in the name should be a clue?

The only reason they dont kill more people is because people dont swim in waters they commonly frequent.

Would you get in a cage with a T-Rex?

This is a Killer whales skeleton:



Bud runs a tight ship, cost cutting measures are all over their company.
ROFL at the fact that they are using this one for breeding.
Yeah, that outta work out well..............................................

Put it in a truck
Drive it to Vancouver Island
LET
IT
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2010, 06:40:37 AM »
Why is it at all the animal's fault that he did what comes naturally to him? It's a wild animal, in captivity - trained like a circus animal. When the animal acts "natural" - we're shocked and call for it's murder. BTW: they just said 2Million is the animal's worth.
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 06:46:07 AM »
Why is it at all the animal's fault that he did what comes naturally to him? It's a wild animal, in captivity - trained like a circus animal. When the animal acts "natural" - we're shocked and call for it's murder. BTW: they just said 2Million is the animal's worth.


This

KILLER whale

I know everyone thinks of Flipper when they see a Dolphin/Porpoise but they can be a NASTY ANIMAL
NASTY
Besides humans and chimps Dolphins are another known mammal that kills for the sport of it.
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 06:50:14 AM »
I agree partially, its not the animals fault... he has become what he is because he is captive.  Killer Whales don't "normally" attack humans in the wild though, they are actually very intelligent and more curious about humans than thinking of them as something to eat.  But with that said, I'm only gaging that on the many documentaries I've watched.  I love documentaries, particularly about wildlife.  This whale can never be released, sad to say, he is likely to repeat his behaviour in the wild.  jmo....

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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 06:56:40 AM »
I believe confining any creature to a space other than it's natural habitat is inhumane. I think major called it out...it's all about $$$

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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 07:00:00 AM »
 This whale can never be released, sad to say, he is likely to repeat his behaviour in the wild.  jmo....

Well, at least in the wild he wouldn't have a tasty human snack standing on his nose as he performs acrobatic maneuvers for several hours a day.  This is a six ton predator with a mouthful of very big teeth.  If you play around with them long enough something bad might just happen.
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 07:15:42 AM »
 This whale can never be released, sad to say, he is likely to repeat his behaviour in the wild.  jmo....

Well, at least in the wild he wouldn't have a tasty human snack standing on his nose as he performs acrobatic maneuvers for several hours a day.  This is a six ton predator with a mouthful of very big teeth.  If you play around with them long enough something bad might just happen.

True, but I don't think I'd want to go swimming at the beech either.   ;)

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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 08:18:09 AM »
I agree with Beerocd.

To quote Chris Rock, "That tiger didn't go crazy, that tiger went TIGER. A tiger on a unicycle, now THAT's crazy."

Killer whales eat a lot of roughly human-sized mammals. Put it in a tank with a human-sized mammal that you don't want it to eat, well... don't act all shocked when the predictable occurs.
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 08:22:53 AM »
Agreed, but I wouldn't let Ted Bundy or Charles Manson out so they could teach children or young adults their craft either.     

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 08:38:59 AM »
No, I'm not suggesting they let it go at all. I'm saying they should keep it. The fact that the killer whale has now officially killed shouldn't change anything. What's the difference between "Will probably kill someone" and "has killed someone?" Nothing. It was a killer before, it's a killer now, and it will always be a killer.

Anthropomorphising the whale only introduces moral dilemmas.
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 08:42:20 AM »
Agreed, but I wouldn't let Ted Bundy or Charles Manson out so they could teach children or young adults their craft either.     

MUCH different

Let the thing go off Vancouver Island or Alaska somewhere and let nature takes its course.
Its not going to go all Jaws III and move down to Cali and start eating surfers
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Re: Sea World; Killer Whale
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2010, 08:45:41 AM »
Agreed, but I wouldn't let Ted Bundy or Charles Manson out so they could teach children or young adults their craft either.     

MUCH different

Let the thing go off Vancouver Island or Alaska somewhere and let nature takes its course.
Its not going to go all Jaws III and move down to Cali and start eating surfers

Well, to quote MrNate.... don't be all shocked when the predictable occurs.   ;)