[davidgzach]

i may give the Hochkurz double decoction a try with the step hot water infusion procedure..seems reasonably straight forward and simple to perform.
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One piece of advice is to pull more than you think you should for the first decoction.  I still have to force myself to take more out so I can get to my next step.  Make sure you have a pot of boiling water on hand as well.....

Good luck!

Dave

[bboy9000]

For malty lagers I use W206. (Wyeast 2206, maybe White Labs 830?)

Edit: According to Kris England's chart it's WLP820.

wyeast 2206 - any issues with burning up the diacetyl ? they even list it as high producer of D.

just curious

2206 is my go to lager yeast because I not only love the malty flavor it gives, but I have never gotten diacetyl from it.  I think it's the most reliable, well behaved lager yeast I've used.

I used Wy2206 and the Oktoberfest was pretty good.  I thought I could detect some diacetyl but none of my friends could.  This was my first and only lager attempt as I don't have an ideal place to ferment a lager. I used a Mr. Beer fermentor so I could ferment it in my refrigerator.  It fermented around 47F and lagered for two months at 37F.  Probably not ideal temps so a little diacetyl wasn't surprising.  Overall it was a good beer and if I ever get a thermostat for my deep freeze I'll use 2206 on another Oktoberfest.

EDIT: I also didn't make a starter as I thought a smack pack would provide enough yeast for a little over 2 gallons.  May explain the diacetyl I thought I detected.

[Wort-H.O.G.]

i may give the Hochkurz double decoction a try with the step hot water infusion procedure..seems reasonably straight forward and simple to perform.

One piece of advice is to pull more than you think you should for the first decoction.  I still have to force myself to take more out so I can get to my next step.  Make sure you have a pot of boiling water on hand as well.....

Good luck!

Dave
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im not pulling mash and heating..i'm infusing with water to reach my next temp step....easier and more practical for my setup.

[redbeerman]

I use WLP833 (getting back to the original question).  I like the malt profile it leaves.  Also makes a good starter for my doppelbock.

have you used another? any compare and contrast highlights you noticed?

I have used WLP820 and 830 as well.  820 was OK but does not attenuate as much as 833, 830 attenuates a bit too much for the style IMO.

[davidgzach]

i may give the Hochkurz double decoction a try with the step hot water infusion procedure..seems reasonably straight forward and simple to perform.

One piece of advice is to pull more than you think you should for the first decoction.  I still have to force myself to take more out so I can get to my next step.  Make sure you have a pot of boiling water on hand as well.....

Good luck!

Dave

im not pulling mash and heating..i'm infusing with water to reach my next temp step....easier and more practical for my setup.
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Cool, but then it's just a double infusion, not double decoction....

[Wort-H.O.G.]

i may give the Hochkurz double decoction a try with the step hot water infusion procedure..seems reasonably straight forward and simple to perform.

One piece of advice is to pull more than you think you should for the first decoction.  I still have to force myself to take more out so I can get to my next step.  Make sure you have a pot of boiling water on hand as well.....

Good luck!

Dave

im not pulling mash and heating..i'm infusing with water to reach my next temp step....easier and more practical for my setup.

Cool, but then it's just a double infusion, not double decoction....
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Ok technically accurate...but from Kai's report, it's the same outcome isn't it?

[davidgzach]

i may give the Hochkurz double decoction a try with the step hot water infusion procedure..seems reasonably straight forward and simple to perform.

One piece of advice is to pull more than you think you should for the first decoction.  I still have to force myself to take more out so I can get to my next step.  Make sure you have a pot of boiling water on hand as well.....

Good luck!

Dave

im not pulling mash and heating..i'm infusing with water to reach my next temp step....easier and more practical for my setup.

Cool, but then it's just a double infusion, not double decoction....

Ok technically accurate...but from Kai's report, it's the same outcome isn't it?
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Just busting your stones!  Infusion-wise it is the same. But pulling decoctions definitely changes the character of the beer.

[denny]

But pulling decoctions definitely changes the character of the beer.

Uh.....maybe....

[davidgzach]

But pulling decoctions definitely changes the character of the beer.

Uh.....maybe....

Uh oh, I see a decoction debate coming! 

[denny]

But pulling decoctions definitely changes the character of the beer.

Uh.....maybe....

Uh oh, I see a decoction debate coming!  Dennny

No debate.....I know what I believe and everyone else is free to be wrong....

[davidgzach]

But pulling decoctions definitely changes the character of the beer.

Uh.....maybe....

Uh oh, I see a decoction debate coming!  Dennny

No debate.....I know what I believe and everyone else is free to be wrong....

LOL!