[tschmidlin]

I'm convinced you have too much free time.

Maybe.  I need more sleep

[tschmidlin]

i can boil water in a paper cup on a camp fire though

Sure, if you put it in the right spot.  But not if you don't.

[troybinso]

But I feel like if you aren't counting your time you aren't really being honest to yourself. Saturday and Sunday mornings are hard to put a monetary value on.

I woudn't factor my time into the cost of homebrewing. Sure I may be able to make money during the time I am homebrewing, but I LIKE to homebrew. I certainly wouldn't pay someone to come over to my house and set up the brew system, brew a batch and the get it in the fermenters for me. Come check on it daily and keg it when it is ready. Those are things I enjoy doing on Saturday and Sunday mornings.

[majorvices]

But I feel like if you aren't counting your time you aren't really being honest to yourself. Saturday and Sunday mornings are hard to put a monetary value on.

I woudn't factor my time into the cost of homebrewing. Sure I may be able to make money during the time I am homebrewing, but I LIKE to homebrew. I certainly wouldn't pay someone to come over to my house and set up the brew system, brew a batch and the get it in the fermenters for me. Come check on it daily and keg it when it is ready. Those are things I enjoy doing on Saturday and Sunday mornings.

But, it's the time you put into it that makes it so special! (OK, we are back here again. I quit. Y'all know and any major economist worth his salt would agree with me.

[hopfenundmalz]

But I feel like if you aren't counting your time you aren't really being honest to yourself. Saturday and Sunday mornings are hard to put a monetary value on.

I woudn't factor my time into the cost of homebrewing. Sure I may be able to make money during the time I am homebrewing, but I LIKE to homebrew. I certainly wouldn't pay someone to come over to my house and set up the brew system, brew a batch and the get it in the fermenters for me. Come check on it daily and keg it when it is ready. Those are things I enjoy doing on Saturday and Sunday mornings.

But, it's the time you put into it that makes it so special! (OK, we are back here again. I quit. Y'all know and any major economist worth his salt would agree with me.

Years ago a deer hunter I worked with said if you added it all up, the venison was about $50 a pound at the cheapest. Yeah, I agree that my homebrew is not cheap.

[HoosierBrew]

It's all in your interpretation. I think that the  "Time= $$"  argument, for me, is on things I HAVE to do (ie., clean gutters, mow, car repairs,etc.).  Going to a movie, concert, sporting event, or most importantly, brewing, are things I LOVE to do, and are escapes from the Monday - Friday grind, when I am concerned with having to bring home money. You have to do SOMETHING on the weekends. 

[weithman5]

so to make my homebrew cheaper, i should quit my job and be unemployed.  then my time is worth less....

[brewmichigan]

so to make my homebrew cheaper, i should quit my job and be unemployed.  then my time is worth less....

Bingo!

[majorvices]

I just love to argue about stupid stuff. Especially when I'm right.

[narvin]

If you like cheap beer, it's not cheaper 

But, if you have a salaried job with no overtime, enjoy brewing, and like $20 bottles of Belgian beer, you bet your sweet ass it's cheaper.  As long as you disregard equipment costs, which would totally go to some other hobby anyway if you had more time (artisinal mustard?).

I just bottled about $1000 worth of Gueze and Kriek according to market prices.  Considering how cheap pils malt, raw wheat berries, and old hops are, that paid for my pump/chiller/fermentation freezer!

[Slowbrew]

If you like cheap beer, it's not cheaper 

But, if you have a salaried job with no overtime, enjoy brewing, and like $20 bottles of Belgian beer, you bet your sweet ass it's cheaper.  As long as you disregard equipment costs, which would totally go to some other hobby anyway if you had more time (artisinal mustard?).

I just bottled about $1000 worth of Gueze and Kriek according to market prices.  Considering how cheap pils malt, raw wheat berries, and old hops are, that paid for my pump/chiller/fermentation freezer!

I agree with you completely.  You picked a bad example though.  8^) 

I make my own mustard.  All you need is ingredients, something to store it in (like a Tupperware bowl) and a blender.  Probably my least costly hobby.

Paul

[kmccaf]

If you like cheap beer, it's not cheaper 

But, if you have a salaried job with no overtime, enjoy brewing, and like $20 bottles of Belgian beer, you bet your sweet ass it's cheaper.  As long as you disregard equipment costs, which would totally go to some other hobby anyway if you had more time (artisinal mustard?).

I just bottled about $1000 worth of Gueze and Kriek according to market prices.  Considering how cheap pils malt, raw wheat berries, and old hops are, that paid for my pump/chiller/fermentation freezer!

I agree with you completely.  You picked a bad example though.  8^) 

I make my own mustard.  All you need is ingredients, something to store it in (like a Tupperware bowl) and a blender.  Probably my least costly hobby.

Paul

The most expensive thing that goes into my mustard is my homebrew.

[narvin]

If you like cheap beer, it's not cheaper 

But, if you have a salaried job with no overtime, enjoy brewing, and like $20 bottles of Belgian beer, you bet your sweet ass it's cheaper.  As long as you disregard equipment costs, which would totally go to some other hobby anyway if you had more time (artisinal mustard?).

I just bottled about $1000 worth of Gueze and Kriek according to market prices.  Considering how cheap pils malt, raw wheat berries, and old hops are, that paid for my pump/chiller/fermentation freezer!

I agree with you completely.  You picked a bad example though.  8^) 

I make my own mustard.  All you need is ingredients, something to store it in (like a Tupperware bowl) and a blender.  Probably my least costly hobby.

Paul

http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-on-internet-almost-falls-into-world-of-diy-mus,17013/

[majorvices]

Still never going to get me to look at the amount of time you put into a project as a commodity. My time is precious to me, especially my free time. In that case, my homebrew has been some of the most expensive beer in the world! Y'all with cheaper time need to come over and wash my car and pressure wash my house this weekend.

[narvin]

Still never going to get me to look at the amount of time you put into a project as a commodity. My time is precious to me, especially my free time. In that case, my homebrew has been some of the most expensive beer in the world! Y'all with cheaper time need to come over and wash my car and pressure wash my house this weekend.

Never? I'm not going to give up that easily!

Obviously I wouldn't suggest brewing beer ONLY because it's cheaper, but it could be considered a perk.  If I ended up with natty lite, I wouldn't be wasting my time on it, but often DIY has an element of quality in it as well.  Savings aren't huge, but they exist... whether or not I give away enough beer to negate them is irrelevant 

Would you say cooking dinner at home is more expensive than getting take out because it takes you a couple hours?  Time is precious and you have to prioritize, but I don't buy that argument.