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goschman:
Got ya. That all makes sense. At this point it does seems to possibly match up with an ESB/English Pale or an Alt. I will need to compare the two styles and see which one seems more appropriate. It has move alcohol and less color than an alt but I guess the flavor profile is what matters most here.

Thanks guys. Once I make a determination, I can use it instead of telling people, "well, it was supposed to be an APA but turned out...."

dmtaylor:
This falls squarely into American IPA territory per the BJCP guidelines.  On the other hand, if you were to enter it into competition, it will not score well because judges are expecting something of lighter color and less color.  But they're wrong.  This is a friggin American IPA, no doubt about it.

hoser:

--- Quote from: dmtaylor on February 14, 2013, 05:40:19 AM ---This falls squarely into American IPA territory per the BJCP guidelines.  On the other hand, if you were to enter it into competition, it will not score well because judges are expecting something of lighter color and less color.  But they're wrong.  This is a friggin American IPA, no doubt about it.

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It also falls into the style guidelines of an APA.

But, hard to say without tasting it.  Taste it and read the BJCP guidelines.  Compare and contrast where you think it will fit best per your tastes, appearance, and aroma.

goschman:

--- Quote from: hoser on February 14, 2013, 07:31:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: dmtaylor on February 14, 2013, 05:40:19 AM ---This falls squarely into American IPA territory per the BJCP guidelines.  On the other hand, if you were to enter it into competition, it will not score well because judges are expecting something of lighter color and less color.  But they're wrong.  This is a friggin American IPA, no doubt about it.

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It also falls into the style guidelines of an APA. I overshot my OG by 9 pts due to a much higher efficiency than normal.

But, hard to say without tasting it.  Taste it and read the BJCP guidelines.  Compare and contrast where you think it will fit best per your tastes, appearance, and aroma.

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Aren't the IBUs too low for an IPA?

It falls into the style guidelines of an ESB/English Pale Ale and I think that this is probably what it tastes most like. The biggest commonalities are "emphasis is still on the bittering hop addition as opposed to the aggressive middle and late hopping seen in American ales" and "Normally has a moderately low to
somewhat strong caramelly malt sweetness". I don't enter comps so I don't have to worry about that. This is more or less an excercise for my sanity and so that I can better describe it to people who try it.

It is very close to fitting into the Amber Ale category with the SRM being just outside of the 10 SRM threshold. It looks like an amber. I am leaning more toward the amber solely based on the ingredients but most ambers I have had are not quite this malty and have a bit more overall hop character. I need to taste it a couple of more times but at this point it "tastes" most like one of these two styles I think.

hoser:
There is a lot of overlap between ambers and APAs

APA
OG 1.045-1.060
SRM 5-14
IBUs 30-45

Amber
OG 1.045-1.060
SRM 10-17
IBUs 25-40

BJCP Comments: Can overlap in color with American pale ales. However, American amber ales differ from American pale ales not only by being usually darker in color, but also by having more caramel flavor, more body, and usually being balanced more evenly between malt and bitterness. Should not have a strong chocolate or roast character that might suggest an American brown ale (although small amounts are OK).

I would think the hop choice of Zythos would knock it out of the ESB/English Pale category.

At any rate, it's beer ;)

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