thanks for the suggestions
one my first thoughts was a marzen/Oktoberfest but i didn't want wait for the traditional laggering time
i think i will try the Cali-common or schwarzbier
I not a huge fan of the American style pale lagers minus actually batch 19 from Coors (and similar pre-prohibition pale lagers
after looking at the style guide for a schwarzbier, sounds like it's similar to New Belgium's 1554? If so that is one of my favorite beers from them.