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My Recent Experience with Citra
« on: February 26, 2013, 07:27:43 AM »
So I've never made a Citra focused beer before - its always been a small component of a large hop bill.  Recently, I have been trying to develop hop profiles that are significantly different across my IPA, APA, Amber and Am Brown, so I decided a few weeks ago to make an APA that is Citra dominant.

Basically, Flavor, Whirlpool and Dryhopping are all 50% Citra, 25% Centennial, 25% Cascade.

It seems to me that DOMINANT is the word.  I just took a sample of one of the kegs that is carbing and it is intense tangerine and mango aroma, and it seems to have no other hop profile than the Citra - I can't pick up any of the expected aromatics or flavor of the other two hops.  I expected more pine and grapefruit and general citric aromas to at least be present. 

Is this abnormal or is this what you guys experience?  I'm thinking I'm going to be a little less heavy handed with Citra in the future - I like it in the background, but its a bit overpowering for me as a feature hop.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 07:40:28 AM »
+1.  The tangerine /orange is very intense.  I like it but not always at its level of intensity.  I will say that the pungency and pine of Chinook did come through against Citra in my last IPA.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 08:28:07 AM »
Citra is indeed a very intense hop.  A friend of mine recently blended 50/50 Citra and Centennial in an APA/IPA.  There's no telling there was any Centennial in that beer -- it tastes exactly the same as his 100% Citra APA.

I do believe that it might blend okay with very strong hops such as Simcoe and Mosaic, maybe Columbus.  But otherwise, take it easy on the Citra or it will indeed overpower everything else.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 09:27:56 AM »
My hops have essential oils of about 1%. Citra can be as high as 3%. They can dominate.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 09:30:03 AM »
Are these 2012 crop? I found the 2011s to be fairly delicate with the mango/guava-ish thing dominant and very little citrus. I haven't brewed with 2012s yet.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2013, 09:42:58 AM »
I was at a local brewpub last night and ordered and IPA that had 7 different hops, although they didn't list any of them.  On the first sip, Citra overwhelmed everything else in there.  Kinda like it was the only hop. 
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2013, 09:44:18 AM »
I put Citra and Chinook in the same category of intensity (Simcoe is also close). If I'm using these hops with less-intense varieties, I back off of my normal equal percentage hop mix. Usually 1.5-2 to 1 paired with a hop like Cascade or Centennial.

I LOVE Citra, though. What a great hop.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2013, 10:32:39 AM »
A friend of mine brewed a Nelson IPA and the Nelson Sauvin gave it a powerful orange aroma.  I'd like to try a wheat with either Nelson or Citra.  Tallgrass Brewing makes their Halycon Wheat with Citra and it isn't overpowering but I can definitely taste the Citra.  I'm not a fan of pitting fruit in beer but a hoppy wheat with Citra would be fun to try.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2013, 11:46:12 AM »
I just can't resist the urge to post my hate for this hop .... just don't like citra at all. Perhaps in the tiniest amounts it blends well, but as a dominant hop I just can't enjoy it in a beer.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2013, 11:46:59 AM »
Are these 2012 crop?

Yeah - first run with the 2012 pellets.  I like Citra, I just really don't like the dominance - its too fruity for me.

Kyle - I hear you though I would say that Citra is more dominant that either Chinook or Simcoe, though the latter two are also quite dominant, Citra is head and shoulders above in that aspect.

Interesting comments Jeff and Denny - guess it ain't just me.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2013, 11:51:20 AM »
I just can't resist the urge to post my hate for this hop .... just don't like citra at all. Perhaps in the tiniest amounts it blends well, but as a dominant hop I just can't enjoy it in a beer.
That is the way I feel about Nelson. I like Citra.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2013, 11:54:27 AM »
I just can't resist the urge to post my hate for this hop .... just don't like citra at all. Perhaps in the tiniest amounts it blends well, but as a dominant hop I just can't enjoy it in a beer.

I'm with you, Keith.  Just way too tropical fruity for me.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2013, 11:56:21 AM »
I just can't resist the urge to post my hate for this hop .... just don't like citra at all. Perhaps in the tiniest amounts it blends well, but as a dominant hop I just can't enjoy it in a beer.

I'm with you, Keith.  Just way too tropical fruity for me.

I'm sort of leaning this way too - I'm glad half the batch was brewed for my teammates at the Tough Mudder this weekend - at least it will go fast so I can brew something else...
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2013, 12:16:12 PM »
I just can't resist the urge to post my hate for this hop .... just don't like citra at all. Perhaps in the tiniest amounts it blends well, but as a dominant hop I just can't enjoy it in a beer.
That is the way I feel about Nelson. I like Citra.

I have not gotten around to trying it yet but have been thinking about using in in a saison.
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Re: My Recent Experience with Citra
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2013, 12:57:34 PM »
A friend of mine brewed a Nelson IPA and the Nelson Sauvin gave it a powerful orange aroma.  I'd like to try a wheat with either Nelson or Citra.  Tallgrass Brewing makes their Halycon Wheat with Citra and it isn't overpowering but I can definitely taste the Citra.  I'm not a fan of pitting fruit in beer but a hoppy wheat with Citra would be fun to try.

I've been shying away from Citra, but using it in a wheat sounds like a good idea.  But, like they say, you gotta try it to like it!

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