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Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2013, 01:20:15 PM »
It's my understanding bio fine will drop all yeast so then would one need to add yeast to bottle condition? I only bottle so am curious for an alternative to cold crashing
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2013, 01:45:04 PM »
It's my understanding bio fine will drop all yeast so then would one need to add yeast to bottle condition? I only bottle so am curious for an alternative to cold crashing

Not in my experience. I bottle a six-pack off of every batch out of the keg and they carb up within a couple days. On the other hand, pulling from the bottom of the keg means I'm getting the maximum amount of yeast in there. I just want to make sure the BioFine ends up in the bottles as well.
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Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2013, 01:47:14 PM »
It's my understanding bio fine will drop all yeast so then would one need to add yeast to bottle condition? I only bottle so am curious for an alternative to cold crashing

Not in my experience. I bottle a six-pack off of every batch out of the keg and they carb up within a couple days. On the other hand, pulling from the bottom of the keg means I'm getting the maximum amount of yeast in there. I just want to make sure the BioFine ends up in the bottles as well.

So if I grab a little yeast when I rack to bottle I should be fine?

If so, cool, might have to give it a try one day:)
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2013, 04:14:50 PM »
It's my understanding bio fine will drop all yeast so then would one need to add yeast to bottle condition? I only bottle so am curious for an alternative to cold crashing

Not in my experience. I bottle a six-pack off of every batch out of the keg and they carb up within a couple days. On the other hand, pulling from the bottom of the keg means I'm getting the maximum amount of yeast in there. I just want to make sure the BioFine ends up in the bottles as well.

Are you priming the keg?  Or do you prime the bottles separately?
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2013, 04:27:12 PM »
Are you priming the keg?  Or do you prime the bottles separately?

I prime the bottles individually with dry sugar. This is immediately after racking to the keg, before it starts to carbonate.
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2013, 07:51:16 AM »
Are you priming the keg?  Or do you prime the bottles separately?

I prime the bottles individually with dry sugar. This is immediately after racking to the keg, before it starts to carbonate.

Perhaps a final question, since we're off topic...

Are you weighing out corn or table sugar?  Or do you use one of the various carb tabs?

If you weigh out sugar, how much per bottle?

I'm not a big fan of the carb tabs, other than they're super convenient.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 07:59:07 AM »
Are you priming the keg?  Or do you prime the bottles separately?

I prime the bottles individually with dry sugar. This is immediately after racking to the keg, before it starts to carbonate.

Perhaps a final question, since we're off topic...

Are you weighing out corn or table sugar?  Or do you use one of the various carb tabs?

If you weigh out sugar, how much per bottle?

I'm not a big fan of the carb tabs, other than they're super convenient.

In reality you are much better off bulk priming at a rate of .75-1oz per finished gallon of beer.

Add priming sugar to 1 cup boiling water to dissolve, add syrup to bottling bucket and rack beer onto it. The swirl will mix the syrup in and then bottle.

This method will give you the most consistent carbonation throughout the batch.

Priming by individual bottle can cause mixed results of over/under carbonation. The weight I provided will get about 2.3-2.5 vols of CO2
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2013, 08:06:17 AM »
Right, but I'm kegging and typically only bottle a six pack or so.  So convenience is important, or I'll just skip bottling.  Or force carb and bottle from the keg, which can also be a PITA.
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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2013, 08:24:31 AM »
Right, but I'm kegging and typically only bottle a six pack or so.  So convenience is important, or I'll just skip bottling.  Or force carb and bottle from the keg, which can also be a PITA.

Ah, got it!
Then I would shoot for approx 2 grams per bottle.

This is based on assumptions of .75oz per gallon and 50 bottles for a 5 gallon batch divided out per bottle.

Honestly it may take a little trial and error
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2013, 08:48:19 AM »
Are you weighing out corn or table sugar?  Or do you use one of the various carb tabs?

Table sugar, 2.5 g/bottle for ~2.4 vol CO2. If they're intended for competition or tasting (multiple small glasses), I'll use 3.0 g/bottle for ~2.7 vol.
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2013, 08:51:10 AM »
Are you weighing out corn or table sugar?  Or do you use one of the various carb tabs?

Table sugar, 2.5 g/bottle for ~2.4 vol CO2. If they're intended for competition or tasting (multiple small glasses), I'll use 3.0 g/bottle for ~2.7 vol.

This is interesting. I have had consistant issues getting the right carbonation on the 6er or two I bottle for comps etc. I will try this next time.
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Re: Using clarifier at the end of fermentation
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2013, 07:20:46 PM »
I ended up dosing with BioFine when I racked it, then on bottling day added 1g of rehydrated yeast to the bottling bucket with the priming sugar. Adding yeast with the priming sugar made for a bit of a bubbly bottling session and I had to go back and top off some of the bottles that foamed up during filling, but overall not a big deal. The good news is the beer tastes great, is carbonated perfectly, nice and clear, and has a thin and fairly solid yeast cake at the bottom of each bottle that does not disturb when I pour. By far my best results yet. Thanks to all for your input.