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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2013, 02:11:19 PM »
I think the toxicity is related to the color of the cooler - or at least I read that on the internet.... :P
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2013, 05:04:46 PM »
I think the toxicity is related to the color of the cooler - or at least I read that on the internet.... :P

I would assume that this means that toxins do not exist in blue coolers, correct?
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2013, 05:42:22 PM »
Hello,
 My husband and I are pretty new to home brewing. We have used kits previously with liquid malt extracts but I wold like to try switching to all grain method. Do any of you have any suggestions for the first route we should take? Methods? Recipes? Suggestion?

We would love some input!

Thanks!
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Start with a simple all barley pale-colored beer like a blonde ale and cut your tap water 50/50 with distilled or RO.

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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2013, 06:03:01 PM »
Really thats just a shot in the dark. Contact the local water utility or send a sample off. What if one was diluting something already perfect or of an extremely low ppm concentration of mineral salts?

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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2013, 06:25:36 PM »
........unless you have really soft water. It's their first batch. There's enough to worry about. Keep it simple.
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2013, 06:29:49 PM »
Very bad advice. Revisit your thinking.
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2013, 07:46:12 PM »
Grow some skin. We welcome your participation. Don't give up that easily my fellow brewer! ;D
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2013, 08:47:31 PM »
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2013, 07:26:41 AM »
BPA is in #7 plastic (confirmed in the article posted). Plastic coolers are #2 plastic.
My Igloo cooler is HDPE (#2) only on the outside.  The liner is polypropylene (#5), another one of the plastics that are considered food-safe and heat stable, though there may be reasons to avoid going over 160-170F.  PP doesn't contain BPA, but it can release trace amounts of quaternary ammonium, which might have reproductive effects but is also a pretty ubiquitous anti-microbial used in food preparation, water treatment and cosmetics.

I assumed all coolers were lined with the same plastic.

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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2013, 07:36:46 AM »
BPA is in #7 plastic (confirmed in the article posted). Plastic coolers are #2 plastic.
My Igloo cooler is HDPE (#2) only on the outside.  The liner is polypropylene (#5), another one of the plastics that are considered food-safe and heat stable, though there may be reasons to avoid going over 160-170F.  PP doesn't contain BPA, but it can release trace amounts of quaternary ammonium, which might have reproductive effects but is also a pretty ubiquitous anti-microbial used in food preparation, water treatment and cosmetics.

I assumed all coolers were lined with the same plastic.
Quaternary ammonium is also used as a sanitizer in the brewing industry. One brewpub I have done a couple of my recipes at use it to sanitize the floor IIRC. The brewers call it "Death Spray".
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2013, 08:14:00 AM »
BPA is in #7 plastic (confirmed in the article posted). Plastic coolers are #2 plastic.
My Igloo cooler is HDPE (#2) only on the outside.  The liner is polypropylene (#5), another one of the plastics that are considered food-safe and heat stable, though there may be reasons to avoid going over 160-170F.  PP doesn't contain BPA, but it can release trace amounts of quaternary ammonium, which might have reproductive effects but is also a pretty ubiquitous anti-microbial used in food preparation, water treatment and cosmetics.

I assumed all coolers were lined with the same plastic.
Quaternary ammonium is also used as a sanitizer in the brewing industry. One brewpub I have done a couple of my recipes at use it to sanitize the floor IIRC. The brewers call it "Death Spray".

Sanitizing floors?  Man I hope that doesn't leach much - I just mashed a dubbel in my white marine cooler - I guess I'll call it "Death Spray Dubbel"!!
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2013, 08:17:14 AM »
BPA is in #7 plastic (confirmed in the article posted). Plastic coolers are #2 plastic.
My Igloo cooler is HDPE (#2) only on the outside.  The liner is polypropylene (#5), another one of the plastics that are considered food-safe and heat stable, though there may be reasons to avoid going over 160-170F.  PP doesn't contain BPA, but it can release trace amounts of quaternary ammonium, which might have reproductive effects but is also a pretty ubiquitous anti-microbial used in food preparation, water treatment and cosmetics.

I assumed all coolers were lined with the same plastic.
Quaternary ammonium is also used as a sanitizer in the brewing industry. One brewpub I have done a couple of my recipes at use it to sanitize the floor IIRC. The brewers call it "Death Spray".

Sanitizing floors?  Man I hope that doesn't leach much - I just mashed a dubbel in my white marine cooler - I guess I'll call it "Death Spray Dubbel"!!

The brewery has a room with open fermenters, should have stated that.
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2013, 08:50:06 AM »

The brewery has a room with open fermenters, should have stated that.


I figured something like that... Still hoping my white rectangular Igloo cooler doesn't leach much quaternary ammonium - yikes!
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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2013, 08:57:13 AM »
I wouldn't have looked, but I did per Igloo's FAQ at its website:


"Which coolers will hold hot beverages?
If you own an Igloo Beverage Cube with the friction-fit lid design or a Classic Stainless Steel Beverage cooler – these models can accommodate hot beverages. All other Igloo coolers are NOT recommended for use with hot liquids."

Oh oh :-[



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Re: Switching to All Grain
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2013, 09:10:51 AM »
I wouldn't have looked, but I did per Igloo's FAQ at its website:


"Which coolers will hold hot beverages?
If you own an Igloo Beverage Cube with the friction-fit lid design or a Classic Stainless Steel Beverage cooler – these models can accommodate hot beverages. All other Igloo coolers are NOT recommended for use with hot liquids."

Oh oh :-[

Calm down.  Same thing they've been saying for at least 15 years.  They say that because they haven't tested them with hot liquids, not because they don't work or aren't safe.
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