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Using maple sap in beer

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saintpierre:
I've made a number of batches with both syrup and all sap brew liquor substitution.  I've never tested the pH or composition but then again I'm usually making a brown or porter and I have more to hid behind.

If I were going to make a pils with the sap the "water" profile would be more important for obvious reasons.

IMO I prefer the sap as it seems to be more woody and the syrup tends to make the batch sweeter and for lack of a better work syrupy... ::)

kraftwerk:
Slight deviation here, but related, I suppose. Anyone have experience brewing with pine resin/sap? Seems like it could be a pretty powerful flavor so I imagine it should be used with caution. I'm going to visit my brother in Santa Fe and he wants to brew an amber utilizing local pinion pine in some way. Just wondering how to go about that.

denny:

--- Quote from: kraftwerk on March 23, 2013, 03:25:45 PM ---Slight deviation here, but related, I suppose. Anyone have experience brewing with pine resin/sap? Seems like it could be a pretty powerful flavor so I imagine it should be used with caution. I'm going to visit my brother in Santa Fe and he wants to brew an amber utilizing local pinion pine in some way. Just wondering how to go about that.

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The usual warning is not to use pine in beer unless you want it to taste like turpentine. Just passing that along....

dnicholson:
I make 70 L batches and usually end up using 85-90L sap in the batch (entire water bill)- the end product usually ends up fairly dry but slight maple /woody flavour - quite nice when it turns out. Will pay more attention to sg, pH, alkt etc of it - am fortunate to work in water/wastewater field and have a spectophotometer at my disposal - just need some funky reagents - would be neat to see if the composition stays in proportion and could just do an indicator of say alkt - will share what I find out - if anything - really appreciate ur input

dnicholson:
Ok, here is the scoop on a sap sample pheno alkt 0, methyl alkt 75, pH 6.6, so4 2.0, cl- 9.7, mg 18, ca 114, mg as caco3 76, ca as caco3 290, P 1.34, tot ammonia 0 and forgot to do the iron. Does the alkt of 75, tot hard of 366 at a pH of 6.6 make sense? Am wondering if there are some interferences as these seem wonky!

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