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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2013, 11:16:21 am »
to give you a sense, according to their website, FW uses 4+lbs/barrel in their Double Jack IPA.  That's a little more than 2oz/gallon. 
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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2013, 11:24:41 am »
Here's the hopping schedule on one of my 10 gallon batches of IIPA

2oz Centennial FWH
2oz Amarillo (7aa) 60 min
2oz Centennial (8aa) 30 min
2oz Amarillo (7aa) 20 min
2oz Centennial (8aa) 15 min
2oz Centennial (8aa) 5 min
4oz Amarillo (7aa) 0 min
4oz Centennial 8aa) 0 min

Dry Hops (hop pellets) 4 oz Centennial in primary after fermentation slows for 7-10 days
Dry Hop 2oz Amarillo and 2 oz Centennial in keg per 5 gallons

That's just one I pulled up and looking at it I think it needs more hops. :)

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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2013, 01:50:38 pm »
Along the same lines as Major, here's the hopping schedule for my last 10 gallon batch of IPA.  Not IIPA, just a 1.060 IPA.

28g Cascade (5.2%) FWH
50g Amarillo (6.2%) 30 min
85g Cascade (5.2%) 30 min
62g Amarillo (6.2%) 10 min
70g Cascade (5.2%) 10 min
60g Amarillo (6.2%) 0 min
62g Cascade (5.2%) 0 min
30g Simcoe (13.0%) 0 min
30g Amarillo (6.2%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each keg)

I don't think this is hoppy enough either.
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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2013, 02:38:07 pm »
Along the same lines as Major, here's the hopping schedule for my last 10 gallon batch of IPA.  Not IIPA, just a 1.060 IPA.

28g Cascade (5.2%) FWH
50g Amarillo (6.2%) 30 min
85g Cascade (5.2%) 30 min
62g Amarillo (6.2%) 10 min
70g Cascade (5.2%) 10 min
60g Amarillo (6.2%) 0 min
62g Cascade (5.2%) 0 min
30g Simcoe (13.0%) 0 min
30g Amarillo (6.2%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each keg)

I don't think this is hoppy enough either.

Grams???? I have no idea how much hops that really is. :P

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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2013, 03:38:25 pm »
Along the same lines as Major, here's the hopping schedule for my last 10 gallon batch of IPA.  Not IIPA, just a 1.060 IPA.

28g Cascade (5.2%) FWH
50g Amarillo (6.2%) 30 min
85g Cascade (5.2%) 30 min
62g Amarillo (6.2%) 10 min
70g Cascade (5.2%) 10 min
60g Amarillo (6.2%) 0 min
62g Cascade (5.2%) 0 min
30g Simcoe (13.0%) 0 min
30g Amarillo (6.2%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each keg)

I don't think this is hoppy enough either.

Grams???? I have no idea how much hops that really is. :P
Tom is what we call a scientist.

30g is about 1 oz+
60 is 2 Oz. +
85g is a boatload.
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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2013, 07:27:58 pm »
It's the 2g in the 62g that really make it work. ;)

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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2013, 10:42:56 pm »
What can I say, I use a gram scale to measure my additions :)

Don't discount those extra 2g!  Should have been 4g though ;)
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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2013, 04:54:58 am »
What can I say, I use a gram scale to measure my additions :)

Don't discount those extra 2g!  Should have been 4g though ;)
Absolutely, 2.19 oz. just can't compare to 2.26 oz.! 
However, I appear to prefer greater precision since I use hundredths of an ounce...

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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2013, 06:12:10 am »
I'm 2 batches into trying to find the perfect Session IPA recipe. Call me a sinner, I guess!  ;D

FYI - kelsey mcnair's west coast bitter has gotten rave reviews - its in my soon-to-brew folder.

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Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2013, 06:28:27 am »
Along the same lines as Major, here's the hopping schedule for my last 10 gallon batch of IPA.  Not IIPA, just a 1.060 IPA.

28g Cascade (5.2%) FWH
50g Amarillo (6.2%) 30 min
85g Cascade (5.2%) 30 min
62g Amarillo (6.2%) 10 min
70g Cascade (5.2%) 10 min
60g Amarillo (6.2%) 0 min
62g Cascade (5.2%) 0 min
30g Simcoe (13.0%) 0 min
30g Amarillo (6.2%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each carboy)
30g Simcoe (13.0%) Dry Hop (each keg)

I don't think this is hoppy enough either.

Grams???? I have no idea how much hops that really is. :P

The tru genius of the recipe is the "85 grams" of cascade back at 30 minutes. A lone odd number in a forest of evens.

Or maybe it should have been 86?

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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2013, 11:07:01 pm »
The tru genius of the recipe is the "85 grams" of cascade back at 30 minutes. A lone odd number in a forest of evens.

Or maybe it should have been 86?
;D
I write down the actual weights added. I know for a fact the guy who packages the hops isn't very careful weighing them out. ;)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2013, 11:08:45 pm by tschmidlin »
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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2013, 08:30:32 am »
We brew a session IPA, and it sells quite nicely.  Plus, just yesterday in South Seattle we were in Two Beers, and their ISA (India session ale) is very good.  We walked out with a growler full. 


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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2013, 12:39:10 pm »

End result? An absolutely delicious 4.5% IPA with loads of hop flavor and aroma. OH! and no, no secondary - four weeks in primary, then straight to the keg. I even dry hopped in the primary.


Nothing wrong with that...check out Founders All Day IPA - Session Ale at 4.7% and the flavor is excellent.

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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2013, 01:07:37 pm »
I think I may start a campaign to come up with  new name for the overhopped APAs that people are referring to as session IPAs.  AFAIAC, calling them either APA or IPA makes it harder to define what an APA or IPA is.
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Re: Oops...Session IPA
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2013, 01:28:25 pm »
I think I may start a campaign to come up with  new name for the overhopped APAs that people are referring to as session IPAs.  AFAIAC, calling them either APA or IPA makes it harder to define what an APA or IPA is.

I've found some difficulty with this when judging, too.  Suddenly a very good APA is not hoppy enough for a lot of my judging partners.  Sierra Nevada Pale Ale seems too tame.  I am not complaining about new beer styles, I just think we need a new name.
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