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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2013, 06:47:57 AM »
1. kegs are easier to manage (one vessel vs 50 bottles)
2. more shelf stable (less oxidation) longer shelf-life when kept cold
3. serving via kegerater is preferable
4. less cleaning/sanitizing
5. beer lines are easy to clean (I use BLC)
6. force carbonation is faster/easily controlled
7. kegs are cool :)
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2013, 01:40:41 PM »
All good reasons given so far, but I didn't see anyone mention oxidation. A standard crown cap lets in about 200-500 ppb O2 per month, and 500 or so is pretty much the maximum allowable level for long-term storage.

C'mon now.  You can't just roll stats like that without sharing a source.  I'm staring at some precious bottled HB approaching the four year mark now with visions of oxygen ingress dancing in my head.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2013, 02:41:25 PM »
I've found that the black top kegs are the coolest and the blue top ones lower my efficiency by as much as a  half a percentage point. Maybe they are for lite beers only.

Does anyone polish their kegs for a more tricked out, sexy, look?

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2013, 02:48:07 PM »
Does anyone polish their kegs for a more tricked out, sexy, look?

I have actually thought about cleaning them up with some BKF so they don't look so beat up.  But ain't nobody got time for that.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2013, 04:58:15 PM »
I started doing it because of #7 (the cool factor) ...but in the end it also allows for convenient bulk aging/conditioning. 
And when I do elect to bottle (either a few bottles or most of a batch) I can bottle bright, properly aged, perfectly conditioned beer without producing any bottle sediment.   
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2013, 07:40:43 PM »
I just like to see the disappointed look on a friend's face when the keg holding their favorite beer kicks, and the same face lights up a minute or two later when they realize that they actually enjoy one of the other remaining beers, possibly a style which they didn't think they liked!

Kinda like weaning them off of BMC!
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2013, 07:57:31 AM »
All good reasons given so far, but I didn't see anyone mention oxidation. A standard crown cap lets in about 200-500 ppb O2 per month, and 500 or so is pretty much the maximum allowable level for long-term storage.

C'mon now.  You can't just roll stats like that without sharing a source.  I'm staring at some precious bottled HB approaching the four year mark now with visions of oxygen ingress dancing in my head.

Sorry, the 500 number is just a rule of thumb that I've picked up. The numbers for O2 ingress I got from the manual for our Meheen Merlin. They cite: Proceedings of the European Brewing Congress, Oslo 1993, p 654. That isn't online, but I found a pretty interesting paper on staling that does have some data. They did find lower diffusion rates (0-850 ppb over 180 days). http://dfadel.ferasoft.com.br/homebrew/livros/artigos/flavor_stability_8p.pdf
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2013, 06:49:30 AM »
I quit a short homebrewing endeavor in 93-94. When I started back up in 2007 it was straight to kegs. I knew already that it was easier and less messy than dealing with bottles so enjoyed my very first batch of SNPA clone on draft.

Also, I don't mind breaking a keg down to clean since it only takes a few minutes. I reach into the keg and feel around for any slime building up- which can happen. Then it needs a scrub with a sponge instead of just an oxyclean soak.

Bottles tend to build up on the counter by the sink. Don't like that... Even so, I tend to bottle hefeweizens but this year I'll be kegging them.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2013, 05:54:55 AM »
I quit a short homebrewing endeavor in 93-94. When I started back up in 2007 it was straight to kegs. I knew already that it was easier and less messy than dealing with bottles so enjoyed my very first batch of SNPA clone on draft.

Also, I don't mind breaking a keg down to clean since it only takes a few minutes. I reach into the keg and feel around for any slime building up- which can happen. Then it needs a scrub with a sponge instead of just an oxyclean soak.

Bottles tend to build up on the counter by the sink. Don't like that... Even so, I tend to bottle hefeweizens but this year I'll be kegging them.
Hefes are a style where I like having that sediment at the bottom of the bottle. Perhaps the issue I've been having is slime/whatever building up in my dip tubes.  Since I've only recently bought a dip tube brush, I hope this issue goes away.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2013, 11:51:41 AM »
I keg because I'm too lazy to bottle. Bottling takes way too much time and effort. I can keg a beer, including sanitizing time (walk away and let the keg soak for 10 minutes), in less than 15-20 minutes (rinsing keg - 1-2 minutes, siphoning beer into keg - a couple of minutes). Washing 50+ bottles, rinsing them, filling them, and capping them takes way more time. I don't clean the lines and taps between beers - the new beer flushes the old out, never had a problem with the old beer affecting new beer flavor (although I do change hoses and rubber when going from root beer to beer). My fridge has 5 taps so I keep a good variety on hand all the time.

Having said all of that, some of the best brewing times I've ever had was bottling with several friends helping.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2013, 12:04:06 PM »
I bottled my beer until I started brewing 10 or 15 gallon batches.  Bottling wouldn't even be feasible for those batches. Bottle storage alone would have been a major issue.

Another huge advantage to kegs is that in the morning there's just one glass to clean, and not a pile of empty bottles my wife can point at and ask if I really thought drinking that many beers was a good idea.

I can come home for lunch, run Starsan through 2 kegs, make a sandwich, fill the kegs and be back to work on time.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2013, 12:17:11 PM »
I was a nothing but bottles guy until I switched to keg. Now I'm stuck. Though I will soon be trying to bottle a half rack of every keg with a cobra tap and bottle filler

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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2013, 01:00:36 AM »
The keg vs bottle debate thread has been resurrected!  Of course we won't really change the minds of those dead-set on either side, but it's fun to hear the pros and cons, with perspectives sometimes really pushed to the extremes.

I'm contrasting the people who clean their lines every week or two to those people who when a keg blows just hook up another keg and let it flow.  We can be as precise or relaxed as we want in this hobby/obsession.

That's not to say there are no consequences.  But since we're the creators of the brew (at least up until we pitch the yeast), we feel the success and occasional failure personally.  While we can be bombarded with information on what is the "best" way to brew--a decent amount of it conflicting--we demonstrate by our actions what we believe.  Brewing and debating brewing is sometimes governed more by emotion than logic or science.

As for my bottling and kegging habits, the merits of kegging have grown on me.  I've never minded bottling, but I really like the fact that if I want, I can pull a keg off tap and tinker with the brew if I get inspired.  You know, applying the unplanned dry-hop or the rubber-mallet-cracked coffee bean addition.
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Re: Why do YOU keg?
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2013, 04:40:25 AM »
Not having a bunch of bottle bombs after incorrectly measuring priming sugar was a big reason!  I also feel its more convenient.  Cleaning the keg after use doesn't take too much time for me.  Maybe a half hour,  then I sanitize and pressurize so it's ready to be filled right away.  I find sanitizing all those bottles takes about the same time, but I'm using a 5 gallon buck, so I only let 10 or so soak for about 5 min or so at a time.